Reading Mark's message and Georgie/Diana's message reminds me of how our own microclimates may affect our success with seeds. Calochortus amoenus is one of my successes from seed. Even last year I didn't lose that species. Calochortus tolmiei is more problematic for me. It is one of my favorite Calochortus and grows locally. Mine often dwindle. Some years I have no luck with it, but seed last year didn't germinate until February and March so didn't go down in the wet. I have my fingers crossed they will return. If you are interested in Calochortus and are not a member Mark you should join the Mariposa Society. As Georgie says their seed policy is extremely generous so you can afford to experiment and there is no better place to learn about each species. Mark also was successful with Lapeirousia oreogena which I can't get to come up. No one has responded to the question of growing Crocus from seed. I too have had germination sometimes the following year or 4 or 5 months after sowing. Any help from the experts? Or is this to be expected. Mary Sue