Thanks so much for the url. Mark I sat up until the wee small hours going through it. Now I am totaly confused LOL, no not really just kidding it is a great help in my decision but of course I guess the best way is to try various cameras to see which I can best cope with. it is far too hot just now to be travelling up to the city so will perhaps have to wait until later in the New Year when the weather gats a little more civilised. Thanks again.