>Arnold and I are in agreement with the exception that he has better weather >than we so if he is not happy about viewing snowdrops in New Jersey, I know I >am never going to be an aficionado. >Maybe, Paul, you would tell us at what temperatures they bloom for you and >how much winter chill (again temp.) is needed. Howdy All, The above was sent to the Bulbs-Images list on yahoogroups, but as we're not supposed to have discussion on there I figured it best to address this here. This was a response to some pictures I posted of the Double Galanthus 'Lavinia' and a brief discussion of finickiness of Galanthus. The following is my response to the above message. I just wanted to explain why this has "appeared" on this list. *********************** Claire, Here in Canberra I get nothing like the weather you guys probably get. We don't get Snow except on very odd ocassions. To us, it is still cold in winter, but to some of you out there we're probably tropical . It is all in the perspective. We get down to at least -6'C each winter here. Some years there are only a couple, whereas others like this year there have been a whole string of cold nights, with down to -8'C already experienced. This winter is colder than a lot of recent ones as a lot of plants previously unaffected by cold have been hit this year. I honestly don't know how much winter chill is needed, just how much we get here. IT works for us, so it can at least give you some idea of what works here. All my Galanthus are grown unprotected from frost with some in the full open and others under shrubs etc. Some of the varieties are actually out in full summer sun (one of these was an accident as the cover plant has taken so long to grow and still hasn't shaded it.... yet the Galanthus is flowering now for the third year running, having experienced all day summer sun into the high 30s ('C). I mention this just to show that not all Galanthus require the cool and shadey aspects. Some definitely prefer a drier summer, while others cannot tolerate it. It depends on the species involved. I find that if the Galanthus get a lot of sun when in bud they tend to have short stems (I have been suffering that this year as we've had very cold nights but rather warm days as well. Some of my favourite cultivars have started flowering on 2 inch stems, somewhat disappointing. I grow my Galanthus in both pots and the ground. They tend to shoot and flower earlier in the pots than the ground, although that is not always the case. Obviously the soil temperatures in the pots rise quicker than the ground, so I don't know what actually stimulates the growth. I find that just about everything I have flowers (obviously not every bulb every year, but a reasonable amount). The only clump I don't have flower is one in very heavy shade. It has failed the last 2 years since a shrub has taken off. I will be moving some of it this year to try to get some flowers next year. They seem to grow happily in the shade, but they just don't flower. This particular species is G. plicatus which is a good flowerer normally (and is in bud in other parts of the garden and in pots). OK, without rambling on any further is that what you were wanting to know? I am certainly no expert on Galanthus, but I'm happy to share experiences with others if it helps them to grow. I must admit that it is easier to grow them in pots as you can lift them to look at the flowers. As Arnold has said... in the middle of winter it is a pain to get down to look at them. Much easier to lift and look at the flower instead of getting down to it . Can I add anything else here to help? Cheers. Paul Tyerman Canberra, Australia. USDA equivalent - Zone 8/9 mailto:email@example.com Growing.... Galanthus, Erythroniums, Fritillarias, Cyclamen, Crocus, Cyrtanthus, Liliums, Hellebores, Aroids, Irises plus just about anything else that doesn't move!!!!!