At 08:08 4/08/03 +0100, you wrote: >> Leucojum roseum is in flower as I write, triggered by watering. No >> leaves yet. Ditto for L. autumnale. > >very strange! My L autumnale is always in leaf > Mark, I'm sort of glad that ours aren't. One of the things I love about L. autumnale is that there is absolutely nothing there in early summer (be it in pots or the ground, sun or dappled shade) then suddenly over the space of a couple of days flowers scapes appear in profusion. You end up with these little flowers floating all over the place, but no foliage to "link" to them. I really love them this way. Fascinating that yours never lose their foliage though. I didn't realise that these are only deciduous due to climatic conditions rather than internal seasonal "clocks". Cheers. Paul Tyerman Canberra, Australia. USDA equivalent - Zone 8/9 mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org Growing.... Galanthus, Erythroniums, Fritillarias, Cyclamen, Crocus, Cyrtanthus, Oxalis, Liliums, Hellebores, Aroids, Irises plus just about anything else that doesn't move!!!!!