Ipheion 'Rolf Fiedler'

John MacGregor jonivy@earthlink.net
Mon, 01 Dec 2003 01:09:44 PST
on 11/30/03 10:13 PM, Lee Poulsen at wpoulsen@pacbell.net wrote:

> No, I hadn't gotten any replies. However, now that I read John
> MacGregor's reply, I'm even more confused.
> 1. 'Rolf Fiedler' has been known since at least 1978 and even then
> was already named "Tristagma peregrinans"? Why has there been so much
> puzzlement over this species since then?
> 2. The entire Ipheion genus was subsumed into Tristagma since at
> least 1963? Is this true? Why hasn't anyone anywhere, currently,
> listed their Ipheion uniflorum species or cultivars as Tristagma
> uniflorum? This is the first I've heard this.

They have!  I took the citations I quoted from the International Plant Names
Index so they are readily available to anyone interested in pursuing the
matter.  Just a quick Google search turned up several reference sites whose
authors were at least aware of the synonymy:







> 3. So if the "yellow" Ipheions are all Nothoscordums and the "blue"
> Ipheions are really Tristagmas, then there never were any Ipheions?
> 4. And what about the Tristagma species that always were Tristagma?
> Do they look like Ipheions? I've never seen them (although I've tried
> to grow some seeds of them recently--Chilean species). Does T. nivale
> look like the various Ipheion species?
> 5. Should we all re-label our Ipheions? Should we organize an email
> and letter campaign to tell every mail order nursery around the world
> that offers Ipheions that they are really Tristagmas?  ;-)
> Just wondering aloud...
> --Lee Poulsen
> Pasadena area, California, USDA Zone 9-10
>> Dear Lee,
>> Did you get a private response from anyone about your question below
>> to the group. I am reposting it since it was written under an Oxalis
>> subject heading and may have gotten lost. I know a lot of us would
>> like the answer to this question.
>> Mary Sue
>> At 07:20 PM 11/18/03 -0800, you wrote:
>>> Speaking of uncertainties and bones of contention with regard to
>>> species names and synonyms, I was scanning through Dirk's latest
>>> list of bulb offerings and happened upon this:
>>> "Ipheion pelegrinans    (syn. Tristagma pelegrinans) Known as I.
>>> 'Rolf Fiedler' in the trade before it's true identity was
>>> established.
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