I must have purchased some bad labels, because they are all turning funny, almost as if they are rusted only with black splotches. I got the silver ones. The black writing is lost. I did write with pencil on the back of the metal markers, so I have been able to recover. The pencil lasts, but doesn't look tidy in the garden. At 07:27 PM 2/10/2003 -0800, you wrote: >So I redid them using the label machine and so far several years later >they are fine. Marguerite English - Gardening with bulbs and perennials at 3500 feet in the mountains of southern California.