At 11:37 20/02/03 -0800, you wrote: >Runners to a metre in Australia! They are rhizomatous here, but stay >in tight clumps on clay soil, and are a bit looser on sand, but never >even 20 cm.long. Maybe Australia received a long-rhizome form. > Diane, I don't know about others, but mine definitely had a few LONG runners sent out from it. Mostly they were within the foot, but 2 or three appeared a long way away and when I went to pull them out I found that they had a runner thread leading back to the main clump (otherwise I would have assumed they were seedlings). That was when all the warning bells went off <grin>. I don't know how others here in the land of Oz have found them? Cheers. Paul Tyerman Canberra, Australia. USDA equivalent - Zone 8/9 mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org Growing.... Galanthus, Erythroniums, Fritillarias, Cyclamen, Crocus, Cyrtanthus, Liliums, Hellebores, Aroids, Irises plus just about anything else that doesn't move!!!!!