Epipactis gigantea

Tony Avent tony@plantdel.com
Sun, 20 Jul 2003 14:35:29 PDT

	Finger slip...you are right.

At 09:47 AM 7/20/2003 -0000, you wrote:
>When someone as knowledgeable as Tony Avent, and a nursery person in
>addition, gives a different name than I am used to, I pay attention because
>we do like to have correct nomenclature in our own sales area (I admit to
>not having changed our Cimicifugas to Actaea, however--BAD).
>We list Epipactis gigantea 'Serpentine Night' and not Epipactus giganteus
>'Serpentine Knight'. The RHS Plant Finder also has the former. Tony, was
>that just a slip of the fingers, or is there some controversy regarding the
>Ernie O'Byrne
>Northwest Garden Nursery
>86813 Central Road
>Eugene OR 97402-9284
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
>[mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Tony Avent
>Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:28 PM
>To: Pacific Bulb Society
>Subject: Re: [pbs] Epipactis gigantea
>Mary Sue:
>	Surprisingly, Epipactus giganteus grows wonderful for us in bone dry sand.
> We irrigate occasionally through the summer, but it has proven to be
>amazingly durable. We have grown the cultivar E. 'Serpentine Knight' for
>about 8 years.
>At 07:15 AM 7/17/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>>Dear All,
>>Our wildflower season is winding down now although we are still enjoying
>>the starry flowers of the Chlorogalum on those hot days we walk in the
>>evening. A couple of weeks ago however we saw this orchid on one of our
>>hikes growing close to the Gualala River. It is probably covered by water
>>during the winter months when the River runs high, but now is growing in
>>the gravel. A lot of our local orchids really need a hand lens to
>>appreciate as the flowers are quite small, but this one has larger flowers.
>>This species has rhizomes and this particular plant is expanding each year.
>>My field guide says that it is found on the margins of lakes, streams, and
>>springs in the Pacific states. I saw a picture of this species in a slide
>>shown by Roger Raiche at a California Horticultural Society meeting as it
>>grows on his property, the Cedars, which has serpentine soil and can be
>>very hot in summer (and VERY wet in winter.)I thought it was very pretty at
>>the time but thought it would need to be quite wet to grow well, but now I
>>wonder how dry it would be in summer. Epipactis gigantea is listed in the
>>Telos Catalog and maybe Diana will tell us how she grows it. I haven't made
>>a Wiki page yet for it, but here are pictures Bob took:
>>And for size:
>>You may remember that we were discussing how to arrange field guides. My
>>friend who arranges by color and is rewriting her book was along so we
>>began to discuss where she was going to put this plant. She uses white,
>>yellow, red, pink, blue, green, and brown as the choices. She was going to
>>put it in pink, but had changed her mind to yellow. Most of us voted brown
>>as from a distance that is what you notice, but my husband thought green.
>>Another said mauve would be good, but my friends just groaned and said
>>there wasn't going to be a mauve. I looked it up in Peterson (Pacific
>>States Wildflowers) which also arranges by color and it is described as
>>having yellow-green flowers, but is on a page that is the transition from
>>orange to pink (because of the lip which they describe as orange.) I know
>>the colors on everyone's computers will be a little different so don't know
>>what you all will think. This certainly illustrates how a few plants are
>>challenging to classify by color.
>>Mary Sue
>>Mary Sue Ittner
>>California's North Coast
>>Wet mild winters with occasional frost
>>Dry mild summers
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>Raleigh, NC  27603  USA
>Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
>Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
>USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
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Tony Avent
Plant Delights Nursery @
Juniper Level Botanic Garden
9241 Sauls Road
Raleigh, NC  27603  USA
Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
email tony@plantdelights.com
website  http://www.plantdel.com/
phone 919 772-4794
fax  919 772-4752
"I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least
three times" - Avent

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