Species Lilies--TOW

John Bryan johnbryan@worldnet.att.net
Fri, 06 Jun 2003 16:07:22 PDT
Dear Ken:

Appreciate your comments. We took no special precautions with
L.nepalense, in fact we used to leave beds in place over the winter in
the fields and as you might know rain often occurs in Oregon, we never
had any problems. re the dwarf oriental hybrids, Jan de Graaff and I
were travelling to a Lily Conference, I think in 1966 or 1967 and we had
to find a name for a couple of spikes of a new introduction. During our
discussions I mentioned Little Rascal and that was what we named it. the
stems were very very strong, the tepals thick and it was a great
container plant. Cheers, John E. Bryan

Kenneth Hixson wrote:
> Hi, members
>         Not all lilies normally produce stem roots or bulblets, so don't
> be distressed if yours don't.
> L. lankongense and L. wardii.
>         These lilies are sometimes grown in large containers because they
> are stoloniferous, and the containers keep them confined.
> >L. auratum -The reason being the
> >roots were often removed prior to packing, and in transit they lost much
> >moisture resulting in poor quality bulbs being sold.
> >Modern transport and packing methods plus being raised from seed in this
> >country enables top quality bulbs to be purchased.
> >This species has been much used in hybridising, and rightly so in my
> >opinion. It flowers in late summer.
>         With the largest flowers in lilydom (except possibly some of the
> longiflorum hybrids now being developed), there is reason for this species
> to be greatly desired.  Unfortunately, most of the early forms were rather
> virus susceptible, and many didn't last long in the garden.  Newer selections
> are usually longer lasting, and some hybrids also last well in the garden.
> Unfortunately most oriental hybrids now being selected are intended for
> forcing, and only the upright flower habit seems to be acceptable.
> In the garden, the outfacing flowers of L. auratum are more attractive.
> The fragrance is potent and far reaching, unfortunately another character
> that is being selected against for forcing lilies.
>         There is a true dwarf, to two feet or so (Tom Thumb), and there are
> also dwarf oriental hybrids, though they aren't commonly available.
> >L. hansonii-Only one form has been available for years, propagated
> vegetatively.
> It is self infertile, so seed is rarely offered.  More L hansonii were
> introduced a few years ago.  I am still looking for a different form to
> cross with the L. hansonii I have, which is the old, vegetatively propagated
> clone.
>         L. hansonii has been hybridized with L. martagon and L. tsingtauense,
> but hybrids are slow growing and thus relatively expensive.  The martagon
> group generally is slow to multiply and resents being moved, often not
> flowering for a year or two afterwards.  In addition, flowers are
> generally smaller than some other lilies-which means that for the most
> part, people who can grow orientals and trumpets, usually do.  People
> who live in cold climates where those types of lilies aren't hardy, grow
> martagon lilies.  Look to nurseries in Canada for best selection.  The
> high price you must pay will be in part ofset by the fact that a martagon
> or martagon hybrid may well outlive you, which isn't true of all lilies.
> >L tsingtauense  an unusual lily.
>         In addition to the odd flower color, this lily has attractive mottled
> foliage, at least when young.
> >L. lancifolium, the famed Tiger Lily.
> The form of L lancifolium usually available is a triploid, which doesn't
> set seed. Sometimes offered is a double form of the triploid, which people
> either love or hate.  It should be noted that the triploid forms are usually
> regarded as heavily infected with virus of several kinds, and as such should
> be kept well away from most other lilies.  The vector is usually regarded as
> aphids, so keep L. lancifolium as far away from other lilies as aphids will
> fly.
>         There are diploid, hence fertile forms sometimes available, of both the
> orange type, and var. flaviflorum, lemon yellow. They are much less vigorous,
> and when I lost them, I didn't replace them.  There are other forms listed,
> but
> I haven't seen them offered.
>         The triploid form doesn't set seed, but it has been found that triploid
> lilies will cross with tetraploid lilies, to yield a few seeds.  I've never
> heard of anyone trying this, but it might be possible to develop a fertile,
> tetraploid form of the tiger lily.        It has also been found that virus
> infection
> may be eliminated by tissue culturing, but only some of the resulting lilies
> will be virus free, and all must be tested to find which ones are virus free.
> All this is somewhat expensive, and hard to justify for a lily which is so
> readily available.
> >L. nepalense
>         As a plant of the himalaya mountains, this is usually regarded as being
> intolerant of being wet in winter, when it would normally be under snow cover.
> In consequence, it is usually reported to thrive best when grown in one of two
> ways:
>         1) grown in the ground, dug up when it dies down, and placed in a
> plastic bag of peat or perlite, with almost no moisture-as in a few drops of
> water.  The plastic bag is carried over winter in the refrigerator (NOT the
> freezer).  As it has a relatively short alpine season, it may be in the
> refrigerator for 6 or 7 months before replanting.
>         2) grown in a pot, which is taken into a frost free area (garage) and
> turned on its' side for the winter.  L. nepalense is stoloniferous, and some
> people report it grows out of the bottom of the pot.  It is sometimes
> suggested
> that the dirt be removed from the top of the pot, so just the tip of the bulb
> is exposed to light, causing the stem to grow upright.  When the new stem
> starts growing, gradually fill in the pot to a normal level.  This may or may
> not work.
>         With its' exotic beauty, L. nepalense has been hybridized with a number
> of other lilies, by several people.  Occasionally seed of "Mclaren hybrids"
> is offered, but most people report they show no sign of L. nepalense.  Hybrids
> with orientals have been made, and are being made, but so far I don't know
> of any which are available.
> >L. regale
>  The 'crown' of flowers at the top of the stems is an umbel.  The pictures in
> catalogs almost always show flowers in a raceme-so either what is being
> offered
> is not L. regale, or the people making the catalog didn't bother to get an
> accurate picture.  You decide.  L regale is widely known for producing seed
> which resembles almost exactly the mother, in one case pollen was put on L.
> regale
> for five generations, and the seedlings still resembled L. regale.
>         As a pollen parent, the first generation seedlings flower in the umbel,
> which is usually considered inferior to a raceme.  The leaves are relatively
> narrow, and tend to "scorch" when forced, so isn't in demand for that.  The
> stems invariably lean, especially when the head of flowers start to open,
> so don't
> place it where you will brush against it when walking by.  Lily pollen is an
> obvious stain (lemon juice, or cold cream, is an effective pollen remover).
> The result is that L. regale is less used in making trumpet lilies than other
> species.
>         With all its' faults, L. regale is the hardiest trumpet lily, stands
> virus well, will tolerate hot dry spots with no summer water.
>         L regale Album is often offered, and lacks most or all of the maroon
> that stains the outside of the trumpets of the type.  Throat of the trumpet
> is still yellow inside, and there may be tinges of green or maroon, but
> the flower is basically white.
> >L. speciosum  One of the latest lilies, even in September here, there are
> many selections, an early one (punctatum), Album is white, and others from
> palest pink to deep rose.  L speciosum, when crossed with L. auratum, was
> one of the founding parents of the oriental lily hybrids.
>         L speciosum gloriosoides has been recently reintroduced from China,
> and is very different from the more common type.
> L. washingtonianum  The form I have is L. w. purpurescens, opening white
> then aging pink, then rose, finally almost purple.  The fragrance is heavenly,
> possibly the nicest lily of all in that respect.
>         What Jane reports is typical of what is written about this lily, and
> is completely at odds with my experiences.  I find it relatively easy in the
> garden, even when watered regularly all summer.  The hard part is getting
> it in the first place.  When I was growing up, it was an occasional plant
> on the floor of the Willamette Valley, Oregon, elevation about 4 Hundred
> feet, not 4 thousand feet.  There was a plant in a fencerow within about
> three hundred feet of the front door of our home.  It is now very rare or
> extinct in the valley because of grazing and cultivation.
>         I could go on and on about this lily, but this post is far too long
> already.        Ken
> _______________________________________________
> pbs mailing list
> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php

More information about the pbs mailing list