At 09:10 8/06/03 -0400, you wrote: >Grown under HID lights not pleasantly scented > Arnold, Does the growing under light make them paler, or is your A. palaestinum actually red rather than dark almost-black. The full shot you posted looks quite pale, so I am wondering whether it was made lighter by lack of actual sunshine? My plants of the same open pretty much pure black, fading to a deep dark red-purple/almost black as they age. That is why yours stood out so much to me and I thought it was worth asking. Having never grown that sort of thing under lights I have no idea what that would do to the colour. Cheers. Paul Tyerman Canberra, Australia. USDA equivalent - Zone 8/9 mailto:ptyerman@ozemail.com.au Growing.... Galanthus, Erythroniums, Fritillarias, Cyclamen, Crocus, Cyrtanthus, Liliums, Hellebores, Aroids, Irises plus just about anything else that doesn't move!!!!!