Dear All, Thank you Alberto for filling in a few large gaps in a little-understood genus. I had some Rhodophiala marked down as 'awkward' but perhaps it's me that is being awkward and not the plants. Matthew wrote:<< I've been growing my R. advena as a summer-grower - maybe forcing it to aestivate later in the year would be a good idea?>>. Hmmm.... My R. advena not only grow the 'wrong way around' but they also flower at the 'wrong' time of year (early summer onwards). Given that the plants were seed-raised and germinated immediately, could they still believe they're in S. America (out of phase)? They seem perfectly happy and flower regularly every year. Perhaps I should leave them and try a new batch from seed to see what happens? The same applies to R. araucana. There is always the question of correct identification and I'm used to re-writing plant labels on a regular basis. I will try to upload a couple of images to the wiki (stand by for exploding computers). Cheers. Den Wilson Isle of Wight UK. Zone 8 (maritime). almost frost-free - but not this year.