At 01:03 2/11/03 -0000, you wrote: >hi Jim > >are you sure these Nerines are hardy? I always thought they were heated >greenhouse bulbs. If they can stay outside I'll add them to my list. > Mark, I don't know whether you still have my master list, but if you do then check out which Nerines I have. All of mine are grown outside without any protection and they do OK here down to -8'C without major problems. The species I have always found are less problematic to the hybrids, but I have rarely lost any nerine as yet. Species (or related) which I grow here outside (predominantly in small pots which tends to amplify the cold as well...) are filifolia, filamentosa, angulata (a favourite... brilliant flowering every year, even when divided), masoniorum, humilis, undulata, bowdenii, krigei, pudica, fothergillii major and minor, flexuosa alba and umtata. Also about 15 hybrids or named varieties at this this stage as well. Best flowering of the species I'd have to say is angulata, and once settled in filifolia is brilliant as well. I've only had undulata flower once from seed, but I think it'll be another that flowers very well which has smaller flowers on very tall thin stems which I think could look quite effective in troughs. N. masoniorum one well established flowers very nicely as well, and I think it's tiny flowers shouldd look great in that situation as well. I tend to get seed of these most years now so if you are missing any of these let me know. Cheers. Paul Tyerman Canberra, Australia. USDA equivalent - Zone 8/9 mailto:ptyerman@ozemail.com.au Growing.... Galanthus, Erythroniums, Fritillarias, Cyclamen, Crocus, Cyrtanthus, Oxalis, Liliums, Hellebores, Aroids, Irises plus just about anything else that doesn't move!!!!!