Dear Robin, If there has been a discussion about Oxalis karooica I have missed it. I have looked through what I've saved and I can't find it, at least not on the pbs list. Maybe it occurred somewhere else. Uli recently sent me something labeled as that so I guess I need to change the name. I couldn't find it in any of my books, but thought if Uli, Andrew, and Bill Dijk were growing it perhaps it was just one of those in other parts of South Africa that aren't in my books. I will change it to be a sp. however if that is the general consensus. We will start having a lot of those. I probably should move Lyn Edwards picture from the Mystery Bulb page as well since no one ever figured it out. I will change the Oxalis caprina too. Joyce Miller and I wrote Michael Vassar to ask him if he had keyed out any of the plants he gave to IBS and that is where I got the name. I still have the email Joyce sent to me from him: Joyce, Names for the numbers on your list are: 4674 Oxalis caprina 4719 O. convexula 4720 O. obtusa 4719D O. obtusa 4967 O. ambigua 4991 O. densa 5005A O. obtusa 5117 O. commutata? 5630A O. sp. still unidentified 5667 O. luteola 6235 O. obtusa 6316 O. obtusa 6396 O. polyphylla var. heptaphylla 7087 O. obtusa I have found Oxalis tomentosa in Cape Plants so I can now write about it. Except that book says it has white flowers like Bill's and hairy trifoliate leaves and in his picture the leaves although wonderfully hairy don't look trifoliate to me. I hope it won't need to be changed too, but guess we'd want to know if it is wrong too. Sigh.... Keeping the Oxalis straight is a challenge. Thanks for your help. Mary Sue