Hippeastrum papilio confusion

Kevin D. Preuss hyline@tampabay.rr.com
Wed, 14 Apr 2004 06:04:35 PDT
Papilio has few flowers. what you are describing could be a papilio x
cybister or neoleololpii x cybister.  Papilios are whitish green w/
burgundy.  These hybrids have some cream color in them.
BTW papilio x cybister hybrids grow well for me here in St. Pete, FL!
Kevin Preuss

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angelo Porcelli" <angelopalm69@inwind.it>
To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 8:53 AM
Subject: [pbs] Hippeastrum papilio confusion

Dear group,

I have some H.papilio, a Dutch strain, which are blooming now. While I read
on Thad Howard's and the recent Veronica Read's books this species carries
2-3 flowers per scape, the first one of mine has 4 and 6 and a third scape
is still growing; all the other bulbs have 2 or 3 scape emerging too. But
the shape of flowers is different and they don't have those two wide tepals
as shown on the photos on those books and from photos of all US folks, but
they look rather like the cybister hybrid 'Lima'. On the other hand, this
hybrid isn't thought to be so vigorous, according on V.Read.
I wonder if it is the true species or an hybrid now. The seller is a
reputable source and the bulbs where extra large (28cm+ girt) and they also
listed 'Lima' among the hybrids, but papilio was listed separately.
Last year I got a papilio and 'Lima' from an Italian retail company, but I
thought I had mixed the labels when I saw this flower.
Oh, BTW this photo was taken when the flowers were already fading, but they
weren't much wider than shown.
I don't think the Dutch company has supplied a mislabelled batch of bulbs,
as the bulbs where well labelled and packed.
Maybe European strains are different from US's ones?

best regards
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