>Diane: Are the days to germination (emergence) that you posted, the >number elapsed from the beginning of the outdoor (5 to 10 C) period? >excluding of course the 4 weeks of 18 C. Roy No. I counted the days to emergence from the time I sowed the seeds. So, for example, A. philippiana germinated 10 days from the time sown. Any of my seeds that germinated in 30 days or less germinated in the warmth of my kitchen or living room and never had a cool period except for the slight drop each night when I turned the heat down. Diane