Mary Sue, et al. As you know, I posted a photo of mine to the wiki sometime ago. I had 2 or 3 bulbs bloom this spring. The remainder that I have are smaller offsets. I am not sure how long it will take for them to get to flowering size with my growing practices since I don't fertilize, I have a very lean mix and well, water is very erratic with my travel and work schedule. I actually joke that they get better care when I am out of town than when I am here. <G> Anyhew, Mine came from Elizabeth at Grassy Knolls. I didn't see them on her list last time I looked. I got several Phaedranassa and also Stenomessons at the same time. They are all planted in the same area. Some are in 1 gallons and the smaller ones are in 4" pots. The medium is basically gromulch and not much else. There might have been some commercial potting mix around at the time that I added to but I don't think so. They get sun from about 11 until 3 the rest of the time is full shade. I've never had any leaf burn or trouble with them. But, I am only 2 blocks from the beach. Since these are montane species, I think they enjoy the milder climate here. I would love to get a proper poting mix for these bulbs so that they can be pushed a little. Is there a key for them somewhere? I have a complete set of Herbertia and Plant Life. I could look there but some guidance would be helpful since there is 70+ years to go through. ===== John Ingram in L.A., CA. http://www.floralarchitecture.com/ check it out Floralartistry2000@yahoo.com 310.709.1613 (cell, west coast time, please call accordingly. Thank you)