Ann Marie
Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:39:40 PDT
I bought a bulb from Telos when they had a group/PBS discount on orders last year.  It has successfully supplied me leaves each year but as of yet has not bloomed.  I'm going to try the "withhold water" trick.  Thanks for the info, Mary Sue.  Ann Marie

Mary Sue Ittner <> wrote:///Dear/ All,

In June I wrote about Phaedranassa carmioli hoping someone would respond to 
help me clarify this species. I refer to that post:…

No one responded.

I saw a plant named Phaedranassa carmioli in a friend's garden in Santa 
Cruz, California. She had purchased it from a nursery and plunked it in the 
ground. I remember wondering if it would survive the winter. When I saw it 
there were seed pods just opening and she said I could have some. Later she 
lost it in a cold winter confirming my fears. I floated my seeds (I have 
since gone to planting winged seeds directly on their sides in containers 
within a plastic bag tent and lose fewer to transplanting that way) and 
they germinated in two or three weeks (1998). My first bloom was in 2001. 
Ever since Bill Dijk and Diana Chapman explained that blooming is more 
consistent if you withholding water for periods of time, I have had good 
success with getting a number of my pots, all grown from seed, to flower. 
Rarely do they lose all their leaves in winter even after several months 
without water. Last year I decided to vary when I stopped watering them to 
prolong the bloom. It seemed to work as I had one container start to bloom 
in April, another in May-June, and another in July.

This plant from my friend's garden is the most reliable bloomer I have. A 
couple of other species have not been as successful. I grow it in a 
container I keep in my greenhouse all of the year, although this year I 
brought out some of the plants when they were blooming which prolonged the 
bloom I think. I sent seeds to Dell for the BX and have explained that it 
was labeled Phaedranassa carmioli, but this may or may not be what it is.

I've added pictures of this plant from the ones that bloomed in April and a 
close up of the flowers in another pot that bloomed this month.…

This genus was requested to be a topic of the week. Anyone else willing to 
share their experiences with it?

Mary Sue

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