Tony Avent wrote: >We lost our Crinum jagus 'Rattrayii' this winter at 8 degrees F. >C. asiaticum survived two winters, but got smaller each year. >Our Crinum 'Great White Prince' is probably the same...both a C. x powellii. Tony, My jagus 'Rattrayii' was very slow to come up this spring, but popped up about a day after I decided it was dead. Looks normal now. My asiaticum is a small plant that I grew from seed. It gets a little bigger every year, but is still tiny compared to the giants I see in Florida. I am surprised that amabile succeeds for you while asiaticum diminishes. The two previous I have planted on a sunny south facing bank where the ground does not freeze deeply. They are planted deeply and get extra mulch for winter too. Almost all of my other Crinums are growing in average conditions in the garden and don't get extra winter mulch. I have read that 'White Prince' is a hybrid of album (syn. yemense) x moorei, and not a powellii (bulbispermum x moorei). Jay Yourch Central North Carolina, USA (USDA Zone 7)