Mary Sue wrote: "Sorry about this being too long. I've been composing over the last couple of days and my enthusiasm is getting out of hand." What a wonderful post, Mary Sue. And I'm sure it will be more amazing to me after I spend some time on the wiki figuring out what all those plants are. It's unlikely I'll ever grow most of them here in Maryland, but it's really thrilling to realize that there are broad bulb horizons waiting for me to explore if I ever get the chance. I don't think I'm out of line when I say that here on the east coast our bulb traditions are firmly centered on the bulbs which have traditionally made up the commercial bulb trade. It continually amazes me how much more there is to try out there. And the really cool thing about the internet, email, and the wiki in particular is that those rarities in our east coast gardens which in the past could be learned about only by painstaking library searches (and that only possible to those who had access to really good libraries) are now grown, celebrated and publicized by growers in other climates for all of us to enjoy virtually. I love those long lists, they are the multi-course meals which feed my gardening curiosity. Jim McKenney firstname.lastname@example.org Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where it's impossible to get anything serious done because every which way I look there is something new and beautiful and interesting to distract me.