Lilly seeds and bulbs

Lee Poulsen
Fri, 13 May 2005 17:01:02 PDT
Once again, the amazing expertise of those on this list for all things 
geophytic has been made apparent once again. Having a keen interest in 
finding which lilies will grow in warm weather locations, from 
conversations some years ago (probably on the IBS list), I learned that 
LL. longiflorum, formosanum, and philippinense were native to basically 
tropical areas and should therefore grow well in Southern California 
and Central Texas (my two main areas of interest). Even though they 
seem fairly similar, they have a good scent and they do appear to do 
well here. Then I discovered the L.A. (Longiflorum-Asiatic) hybrids 
that Jim mentions. There are quite a few of them available these days, 
but I am suspicious about what percentage of L. and what percentage of 
A. any given cultivar is because some of them do very well and come 
back each year, but others only bloom the first year and then disappear 
for me. (So I suspect that some may be backcrossed to Oriental lilies 
and are only 25% or less longiflorum.)
I have also discovered that the Trumpet and Aurelian lilies also do 
well here for the most part. I'm now trying the Orienpet hybrids to see 
how they do. L. candidum also does well here, and I think I got a 
longiflorum-candidum hybrid (or something like that) and we'll see how 
that does.

Now, however, I read that there are other species from tropical and 
subtropical areas. (L. nobilissimum & L.
alexandrae & L. wallichianum var. neilgherrense) Thanks to those 
experts among you for listing some of them. Of course, they appear to 
be rarer than the three I already knew about. So the question arises 
yet again: Whence are they available? Mail order nurseries, seed 
suppliers, plant organization seed exchanges, etc.?

Also, having been numerous times to Honshu, Japan in their summers and 
a couple of times to southern China in their summer, it is very very 
warm and humid there at that time. Might those places also have native 
Lily species that could either take or even enjoy a similar kind of 
weather in Texas or the southern states of the U.S.? And what might 
some of those species be? And are there any other hybrids between the 
warm weather species that are on the horizon?

--Lee Poulsen
Pasadena area, California, USDA Zone 9-10

On May 13, 2005, at 4:20 PM, Jim McKenney wrote:
> Darren, here's another suggestion for lilies in Mexico: try the 
> so-called LA
> or longiflorum-Asiatic hybrids. These are hybrids with Lilium 
> longiflorum
> and Asiatic hybrid (not to be confused with oriental hybrid) lilies in 
> their
> background. In some, the Lilium longiflorum influence is not obvious 
> at all,
> in others it is more apparent. I'm suggesting this group in particular
> because some of them evidently have a very slight chill requirement. 
> They
> also look like typical commercial cut-flower lilies (unlike some of the
> other lilies suggested, which suggest funerals).

> One more lily story: several years ago I was in Bangalore, India. 
> Bangalore
> is in southern India, not far from Mysore, one of the old centers of 
> British
> interests in India. The Nilgiri Hills were not too far off - as the 
> crow
> flies, it was about 125 miles to Ootacamund, one of the well known 
> sites for
> Lilium neilgherrense, and the whole time I was there I could not get 
> Lilium
> neilgherrense out of my mind. When I told an Indian friend about this, 
> she
> suggested that I hire a taxi cab for the weekend and head over. I 
> never made
> it, and I still regret it.
> As I was typing this, Jane's email arrived: so it's now Lilium 
> wallichianum
> neilgherrense!

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