Burger, Steve
Tue, 15 Nov 2005 05:50:37 PST

Thanks for your response, I love your nursery and your work with new material. I hope to take a trip there sometime soon (that's relative, next year I would imagine). 

Which ones come into bloom earliest for you?  Between Crinums and Zephyranthes, I have plenty of material that blooms mid or late summer to frost.  I think I've seen an Agapanthus in this area as early as June, but I might be mistaken.



-----Original Message-----
[]On Behalf Of Tony Avent
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 07:25 AM
To: Pacific Bulb Society
Subject: Re: [pbs] Agapanthus


	I can't address winter hardiness of agapanthus in Zone 5, but can
certainly talk about Zone 7b.  We have been trialing agapanthus here since
the mid 1990's and are currently growing 59 different cultivars.  There is
a huge difference in not only survivability, but flowering.  We welcome
visitors to schedule appointments when they are in flower.  

At 10:46 PM 11/14/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>Excellent suggestions so far (keep 'em coming please).  The "two" thing is
somewhat arbitrary, but the point is that I don't plan to become a
collector of them, I just want some representation.  
>The toughest thing I'm encountering is getting information about their
performance down here in the SE USA.  This is not a much used (although it
is hardly absent) genus in this region.  
>Most come from drop shipments to the big box chains that get things from
California or Southern Texas.  Most are the evergreen sort.  Here I've seen
some of the evergreen forms do alright, but they don't remain evergreen.
Others don't do at all.
>An English, or Western North American zone 8 is so different than my 7b.
I'm 7b due to one or two days in winter when Siberia moves to "Jawja" for
some southern hospitality:)  Otherwise we have mild wet winters that are
also fairly short. So hardiness doesn't always translate well here.  
>Sometimes I read literature from England that speaks of a plant's
tenderness and it shocks me because it is so tough here, then I'll read of
another plant I would love to grow, and can't, since it is absolute lows,
not duration of winter, that gets them.  Then my 6 months of heat and
humidity coupled with ample (if unpredictable) rainfall in addition to red
clay hardpan add another variable to the mix.  
>Oops it's late and I'm getting tangental.  I think I will get one of these
deciduous hybrids, and then strike out with some evergreens in some
microclimates around the house and see how they do.  
>-----Original Message-----
>[]On Behalf Of Rodger Whitlock
>Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 05:06 PM
>Subject: Re: [pbs] Agapanthus
>On 13 Nov 05 at 23:29, Burger, Steve wrote:
>> If one could only find room to grow two [agapanthuses] which
>> two would you choose?
>'Bressingham Blue' and 'Bressingham White'
>One problem with Agapanthus is that many forms (species, 
>cultivars, what-have-you) are fairly tender, while others 
>aren't. In particular, I suspect that cultivars originating in 
>California are less hardy than those which originate in 
>England, say.
>And both of these Bressingham cultivars are of English origin.
>Neither is a large plant, inflorescences maybe 2' (60 cm) 
>high. B.Blue is an exceptionally deep indigo blue, but B.White 
>is, frankly, rather washy.
>Nonetheless: I'm always tempted by the huge A. africanus forms, 
>even though I know they'll need winter protection from frost. 
>Some of them, esp. the whites, are outstanding.
>But being a self-controlled and highly moral sort, so far I 
>have resisted temptation...
>We're zone 8b here, but are subject to "arctic outflows" of 
>extremely icey air. Not every winter, but often enough that 
>marginally hardy plants get nailed too often for comfort.
>Rodger Whitlock
>Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
>Maritime Zone 8, a cool Mediterranean climate
>on beautiful Vancouver Island
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