Well I feel pretty good then in saying the dietes seed was not an issue for me to start either, probably beginner's luck! Thanks for all the input on that, I will continue to grow my dietes on in the winter and will try to make note of when it does it's best growth. I have it under 400w light. I do wonder why I attempt such long shots in my zone. I was guessing on the type just by the pictures on the PBS wiki. Linda Foulis Okotoks, AB Canada It's gonna snow!