Hello Mary Sue. I only got the first two items on the index for this issue, followed by the contents for Issue 19. ??? Adam in Glenview IL. ----- Original Message ----- From: <pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org> To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 10:21 AM Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 32, Issue 20 > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. problems with sending seeds to the USA (Rachel Saunders) > 2. Re: pbs Digest, Vol 32, Issue 19 ---mystery lily (Adam Fikso) > 3. Lloydia (David Victor) > 4. Re: Lilium x dalhansonii (Jim McKenney) > 5. Colchicum loving ants (Arnold Trachtenberg) > 6. Nerine Sarnienses Hybrids (arlen jose) > 7. Re: Colchicum loving ants (Theladygardens@aol.com) > 8. Re: Nerine Sarnienses Hybrids (Jim McKenney) > 9. Re: Nerine Sarnienses Hybrids (Arnold Trachtenberg) > 10. Re: Nerine Sarnienses Hybrids (J.E. Shields) > 11. Re: Nerine Sarnienses Hybrids (Arnold Trachtenberg) > 12. Nerine sarniensis Hybrids plus (Mary Sue Ittner) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 18:01:56 +0200 > From: "Rachel Saunders" <silverhill@yebo.co.za> > Subject: [pbs] problems with sending seeds to the USA > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <00dd01c5bba1$36366370$0100a8c0@SERVER> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Dear All, > I need some information please if someone can help. > For the last 3 or 4 years, we have been sending seed into the USA using a > fairly simple system. We wait until we have 10 US orders, then get 1 > phytosanitary certificate covering all species in the orders, and send the > orders in 1 large box with the 1 phyto to my brother in Chicago. When the > box arrives, he posts the orders for me. > This has worked extremely well until recently. In the last 4 months, 2 > boxes have disappeared. They have never re-appeared. So this time I > decided > to contact the USDA and ask if they had it. They told me that they did > not. > Then, by some very strange coincidence, 2 days later my brother was > notified > that they did in fact have the box, and they were sending it back to me. > The reason for this is: > > "You cannot include items that require treatment as a form of entry with > items that do not require treatment. Also phyto must include the variety > of > sp. "Aloe sp." is not sufficient". > > On the phyto we have always put Lachenalia species, Moraea species, etc > instead of listing every single species (which is tedious!) and until now > this has been acceptable. I can obviously get round this problem - I > will > have to list every species which is tedious but possible. > And the 2nd problem is the treatment of seeds. Is there a list that the > USDA > issues telling one which seeds need treatment and which do not? > > I am now in a state as the whole system seems to have fallen apart and I > am > not sure what to do. Has anyone heard that the regulations have changed? > What is the position about import permits? Do you all have to have import > permits for seeds, or can you import small quantities without permits? I > remember reading a while ago that the requirement for phytosanitary > certificates for hobbyists may be disappearing. I assume that this has not > happened? > > I am now sitting here with 15 orders waiting to be sent to the USA, and I > don't know how to send them or what to do with them! Does this mean the > end > of seed for you all??!! > Regards > Rachel Saunders > Silverhill Seeds > Tel +27 21 762 4245 > Fax +27 21 797 6609 > PO Box 53108, Kenilworth, 7745 South Africa > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 11:32:56 -0500 > From: "Adam Fikso" <irisman@ameritech.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] pbs Digest, Vol 32, Issue 19 ---mystery lily > To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <000601c5bba7$efb44af0$5ad8fea9@FAMILY> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hello David. I am not a lily specialist, but L. nepalense is indicated as > being in Yunnan, according to the posting, photo and information posted at > Pacific Rim. I was waiting for Paige to say somethng,, but thought I'd > add > a bit here. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org> > To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 11:00 AM > Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 32, Issue 19 > > >> Send pbs mailing list submissions to >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Lilies in China (arnold trachtenberg) >> 2. Seeds (Myke Ashley-Cooper) >> 3. Re: Email Loss - Belated thanks (Paul Tyerman) >> 4. FW: Orders from BX 101 (Dell Sherk) >> 5. Re: Mystery lily from China (johngrimshaw@tiscali.co.uk) >> 6. Lilium x dalhansonii (johngrimshaw@tiscali.co.uk) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:02:59 -0400 >> From: arnold trachtenberg <arnold@nj.rr.com> >> Subject: Re: [pbs] Lilies in China >> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Message-ID: <432B08D3.1040306@nj.rr.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed >> >> David: >> >> If you don't mind I can forward your image to the lily group for a >> possible ID. >> >> Arnold >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:07:34 +0200 >> From: "Myke Ashley-Cooper" <myke@new.co.za> >> Subject: [pbs] Seeds >> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Message-ID: <00e601c5bae9$b72fb2f0$0100007f@mykecbcb148b69> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Heard about the alien that lands in a wildly unkempt garden and shouts, >> "Take me to your seeder!"? >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:50:44 +1000 >> From: Paul Tyerman <ptyerman@ozemail.com.au> >> Subject: Re: [pbs] Email Loss - Belated thanks >> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.0.20050917214032.0314fb10@pop.ozemail.com.au> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >> >> Howdy All, >> >> Sorry for the delay but a belated Thank You to all my friends who >> emailed me both publicly and privately to provide their email >> addresses so that I can get in contact. I have been unwell the last >> few weeks and basically off-line so I have not responded to anyone as >> yet. I will try to respond to everyone in turn but thought I would >> at least give a quick explanation here as to why you haven't heard >> back from me after my appeal. It might take me a while to get >> through all the responses, and that is providing my health holds up! >> <grin> >> >> Thanks again to those friends who provided your email addresses. My >> address book looks much healthier now than it did immediately after >> the hard drive crash. Any of my regular contacts who haven't emailed >> me please do so as I no longer have your addresses to email you. >> >> Apologies for duplication of this message but I will send it to a few >> of the lists that I originally asked on. Thanks for your patience. >> >> Cheers. >> >> Paul Tyerman >> Canberra, Australia - USDA Zone Equivalent approx. 8/9 >> >> Growing an eclectic collection of plants from all over the world >> including Aroids, Crocus, Cyclamen, Erythroniums, Fritillarias, >> Galanthus, Irises, Trilliums (to name but a few) and just about >> anything else that doesn't move!! >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 08:49:34 -0400 >> From: "Dell Sherk" <dells@voicenet.com> >> Subject: [pbs] FW: Orders from BX 101 >> To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Message-ID: <20050917124924.111C64C00B@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >> >> >> >> _____ >> >> From: Dell Sherk [mailto:dells@voicenet.com] >> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 8:28 AM >> To: 'The PBS BX' >> Subject: Orders from BX 101 >> >> >> >> Dear All, >> >> >> >> I have been overwhelmingly busy with my real job lately and neglected to >> inform those people who ordered from BX 101 about the status of their >> orders. All orders went out more than a week ago. Supplies were short, so >> quite a few requests could not be filled. If you have not received your >> packages yet, please assume that I was unable to send you anything. This >> does not apply to non-US orders which may still be in transit. >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Dell >> >> >> >> Dell Sherk, Director, PBS BX >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 13:47:38 +0100 >> From: <johngrimshaw@tiscali.co.uk> >> Subject: Re: [pbs] Mystery lily from China >> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Message-ID: <00d301c5bb9e$2615d8c0$bcac403e@John> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> David >> >> Your lily is certainly one of the L. nepalense group. Stephen Haw in his >> 'Lilies of China' considers that L. nepalense is represented in China by >> var. burmanicum and var. ochranthum, formerly treated as vars. of L. >> primulinum (e.g. in Woodcock & Stearn, 'Lilies of the World'). Such >> plants >> are sometimes imported as L. majoense, which is a synonym of var. >> ochraceum. >> Haw gives a useful account & I refer you to him! >> >> John Grimshaw >> >> >> Dr John M. Grimshaw >> Garden Manager, Colesbourne Gardens >> >> Sycamore Cottage >> Colesbourne >> Nr Cheltenham >> Gloucestershire GL53 9NP >> >> Website: http://www.colesbournegardens.org.uk/ >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Victor" <davidxvictor@mailblocks.com> >> To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:01 AM >> Subject: [pbs] Mystery lily from China >> >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I have posted a photograph of a lily that I saw in Yunnan earlier this >> year >>> to the "mystery bulbs" page of the WIKI at: >>> >>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… >>> >>> To me, it looks close to Lilium nepalense. However, according to the >>> various reference books that I have, that species only grows on the >>> other >>> side of the Himalaya. Can anyone give me a better name for the plant? >>> My >>> thanks in advance for your help. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 13:55:11 +0100 >> From: <johngrimshaw@tiscali.co.uk> >> Subject: [pbs] Lilium x dalhansonii >> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Message-ID: <00d401c5bb9e$276aba60$bcac403e@John> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> I shoulds just like to correct a point made by Jim McKenney: the breeder >> of >> the lovely Lilium x dalhansonii (first flowered 1890) was one C. Baden >> Powell, not Robert BP the founder of the Scouts, who would have been >> serving >> in India at the time. Incidentally, if one ever wants a good laugh, the >> first edition of 'Scouting for Boys' is hilariously absurd, giving good >> advice on how to tell a man's character from how he wears his hat, etc. >> It's >> incredible that the man was ever taken seriously. >> >> John Grimshaw >> >> >> >> Dr John M. Grimshaw >> Garden Manager, Colesbourne Gardens >> >> Sycamore Cottage >> Colesbourne >> Nr Cheltenham >> Gloucestershire GL53 9NP >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> >> >> End of pbs Digest, Vol 32, Issue 19 >> *********************************** > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 19:27:58 +0100 > From: David Victor <davidxvictor@mailblocks.com> > Subject: [pbs] Lloydia > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Message-ID: > <davidxvictor-0wfgHBDsTCv0tw60zHn96ilRelWN9dT@mailblocks.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Dear all, > > I've added a couple of photographs of the genus Lloydia to the WIKI. This > is a small member of the lily family, found around the Northern > Hemisphere, > with small, but quite attractive plants. Both of the shots I have added > were taken in the wild, one of L. serotina in Kazakhstan and one of L. > longiscapa in Yunnan, China. > > You can see them both at > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… > > My thanks to Mary Sue for being so kind as to add the genus to the index > on > my behalf. > > Best regards, > David Victor > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 15:09:08 -0400 > From: "Jim McKenney" <jimmckenney@starpower.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Lilium x dalhansonii > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <4d64t5$2imcgu@smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Thanks for the correction, John. I've been telling that story for decades, > and you are the first person to point out that I've had my Baden-Powells > mixed up. > > I rather liked the idea of General Baden Powell, First Baron of Gilwell, > having a lily-loving side, even if he was comically paranoid. Next you'll > probably try to tell me that Crocus korolkowii really isn't named for > General Korolkov, but rather for some cousin who stayed home, wrote mushy > novels and never learned to ride a horse. > > Now if I can just get the several Backhouses straight: which one did > Colchicum speciosum 'Album', which one did daffodils, which one did > martagon > hybrid lilies, which one did snowdrops... > > About twenty-five years ago, when I first took an interest in hybrid > martagon lilies, I searched around here in the Washington, D.C. area for > persons growing these. While having a lily talk with a local grower who is > British by birth, the conversation came around to martagons, the old > Backhouse hybrids and a once formidable local grower by the name of Bacas. > My friend started to imitate those people who drop their aitches and > pronounce Backhouse so that it sounds a lot like Bacas, and I came away > from > the conversation a bit confused. > > So it's not just the Baden-Powells I have mixed up. > > Jim McKenney > Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where I was kicked out of > the > Boy Scouts before I even got in (that is, as a Cub Scout). I guess my "hat > language" was saying bad things about me. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:21:51 -0400 > From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold@nj.rr.com> > Subject: [pbs] Colchicum loving ants > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Message-ID: <432C7ADF.9060706@nj.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Often wondered what attached the ants to swarm over colchicum blooms. > Took a close up photo of Colchicum 'Princess Astrid' this morning and > enlarged it and there were that ants feasting upon nectaries deep within > the blooms. Took a very high resolution image ( 8M) so didn't lose much > detail when enlarged. > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… > > Arnold > New Jersey > > <http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/…> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 18:16:47 -0400 > From: "arlen jose" <arlen.jose@verizon.net> > Subject: [pbs] Nerine Sarnienses Hybrids > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <OEEFIEKIANKJDOKLAGOJEEKKCKAA.arlen.jose@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hello All, > > I just wanted to know if any body else in the other parts of the U.S. > (zones > 7, 6 and 5) have had any luck with the hybrids of Nerine sarnienses. I was > poking around in the garden and I noticed that the Nerine I planted last > year not only survived but are in the process of sending up spikes. > > I have had Nerine bowdenii for many years without any problems, except for > it's notorious habit of blooming quite late and sometimes being nipped by > an > early frost. > > I'm quite curious what color these will be and also to hear if any one > else > has experienced this rather beautiful late season charmer in their > "colder" > gardens. > > Warm Regards, > Fred Biasella > Cambridge (Boston) MA > USDA Zone 6b > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:18:12 EDT > From: Theladygardens@aol.com > Subject: Re: [pbs] Colchicum loving ants > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Message-ID: <209.998358e.305e0c44@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Great picture, thanks for sharing it! > Carolyn > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:21:48 -0400 > From: "Jim McKenney" <jimmckenney@starpower.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Nerine Sarnienses Hybrids > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <4d4i7n$2fjl2a@smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Fred, I'm intrigued by your comments. > > I've always assumed that the main reason that Nerine bowdenii does as well > as it does here in the esat is that it produces its foliage in the spring > and it's there and growing all summer. When the cold weather arrives, the > foliage dies but the underground bulbs survive and - we all hope - bloom. > > The Nerine sarniensis hybrids I've had have all been winter growers. And > in > my experience, the foliage is not at all freeze tolerant. Planted outside > for the winter, the foliage attempts to grow but gets cut back with each > heavy freeze - and I'm several hundred miles south of you. > > Amaryllis belladonna shows the same growth pattern - and although its > foliage seems to be a bit more cold tolerant, it's not cold tolerant > enough > to survive even a mild winter exposed to the air here. Sooner or later > there > will be a cold snap which takes it down to the ground again. > > I hope you will be able to post a picture of this Nerine sarniensis hybrid > which survived the winter for you - and that there will be an experienced > Nerine enthusiast out there who will be able to identify it. > > Now let's change topics a bit. I have a Nerine sarniensis hybrid here > which > is grown as a pot plant. It's been outside all summer kept as dry as > possible and roasting in the sun. Although it has not been watered for > months, it seems to be producing new foliage. > > Should I start watering it now? Last year I think it bloomed in late > October > and November. > > Any comments anyone? > > Jim McKenney > Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where in a good year there > is > a Nerine echo of the Lycoris season. > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] > On Behalf Of arlen jose > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 6:17 PM > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: [pbs] Nerine Sarnienses Hybrids > > Hello All, > > I just wanted to know if any body else in the other parts of the U.S. > (zones > 7, 6 and 5) have had any luck with the hybrids of Nerine sarnienses. I was > poking around in the garden and I noticed that the Nerine I planted last > year not only survived but are in the process of sending up spikes. > > I have had Nerine bowdenii for many years without any problems, except for > it's notorious habit of blooming quite late and sometimes being nipped by > an > early frost. > > I'm quite curious what color these will be and also to hear if any one > else > has experienced this rather beautiful late season charmer in their > "colder" > gardens. > > Warm Regards, > Fred Biasella > Cambridge (Boston) MA > USDA Zone 6b > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:20:49 -0400 > From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold@nj.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Nerine Sarnienses Hybrids > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <432CCF01.6050207@nj.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Jim: > > My Nerine hybrids were the result of a bulb rescue a couple of years ago > through the IBS. I keep them indoors and when I see a green tip > appearing I give a good drink and wait until grow starts in earnest. I > water when they dry out. They seem to be relatively sturdy bulbs and > have crowded the five inch clay pot. Haven't tried them outside due to > the conditions that you described. > > Arnold > New Jersey > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 07:15:56 -0500 > From: "J.E. Shields" <jshields@indy.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Nerine Sarnienses Hybrids > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050918071016.01f45a40@pop.indy.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Jim, Arnold, Fred, and all, > > I've had miserable luck with a batch of different named Nerine sarniensis > hybrids that a friend gave me several years ago. I have tried keeping > them > in the greenhouse, dry, through summer, with very poor results. Out of a > dozen or more different hybrids I was given, I have only 6 left alive. > > I tried keeping them outdoors, under a bench in the lath house, through > summer. One year, that worked great! I had the only flowers I have seen > on these after that summer. The next summer, leaving them outside under > the bench in the lath house was the same as leaving them in the greenhouse > over summer -- serious deterioration. > > I didn't participate in the rescue because I had had such poor luck with > these things. I really don't know how to grow sarniensis hybrids here. > > A couple hybrids do well here -- 'Pink Triumph' is one that is healthy in > a > pot here over summer, although it does not bloom. 'Nikita' is a bowdenii > selection that also does well. 'Pink Triumph' is sterile, but 'Nikita' is > fertile and I have seedlings from it. > > Regards, > Jim Shields > > > > ************************************************* > Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. > P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ > Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA > Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:12:22 -0400 > From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold@nj.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Nerine Sarnienses Hybrids > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <432D67B6.8050801@nj.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Jim: > > Mine have flowered well for the past three years. They spend their > dormant period in the basement on the sill of a basement window. I > would say the temp is relatively constant and definitely a damp > atmosphere. As I stated previously when I see a bit of green I give a > good drink and place under a HID light. > > > Arnold > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 08:19:04 -0700 > From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org> > Subject: [pbs] Nerine sarniensis Hybrids plus > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20050918073054.02b2c3f0@mail.mcn.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Dear All, > > Congratulations to Fred for getting his Nerine not only to survive, but to > bloom in the ground in Massachusetts. Well done. > > I've said this before, but when I participated in the bulb rescue I had > very poor luck at first with most all of my Nerines except for one that > looks more like a species. It has been my most reliable bloomer, but > usually has only one scape of small pink flowers. This year it has three > vigorous ones. Tag says (Wombe X Carmenita) > > Harold Koopowitz gave us some instructions. One was not to plant in the > ground. I had more than I wanted to put in pots so I did try two in the > ground. I've seen the leaves, but they have never flowered so I think I > have proved Harold was right. > > We've talked about growing Nerines in the past on this list. I'd like to > refer any of you who were not part of this list when Nerine was the topic > of the week to review Hamish Sloan's very excellent introductions. He > really covered it well and with such obvious affection for this genus. > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbslist/old.php/… > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbslist/old.php/… > > Following Hamish's advice of making sure the soil does not dry out > completely in summer as then the buds abort sounds like what Arnold is > doing. When I left mine completely dry once they went dormant only a > couple > would bloom. This year after leaving mine in the greenhouse to protect > from > our excessive wet winters and leaving them in the greenhouse to provide > some warmth in summer and watering every couple weeks during dormancy > eight > of eleven are blooming or going to bloom. The other three could still > bloom > since they usually bloom in October, but even if they don't, it is still > more success than I have ever had! So many of us have learned not to let > them dry out completely in summer!!! If I could use html I'd underline > that > last statement. > > Also blooming right now are Nerine humilis, Nerine platypetala and Nerine > angustifolia. And I have buds on Nerine bowdenii and my Nerine undulata x > flexuosa (all one species now so probably not a cross anymore). At least > this year I can say I am now having better luck with this South African > amaryllid than any of the others. I've rotted a number of my Cyrtanthus, > but it is my second most successful genus. C. sanguineus is blooming at > the > moment and it is so beautiful. > > One of my rescue bulbs which is red had a broken tag. I could only read > part of two words: Bett.. Hud.. Does anyone know what the cultivar name > should be? > > And Bob and I are rejoicing in seeing Bessera elegans in bloom for the > first time. Wow! I got some from Diana Chapman. Year number one they > bloomed when we were out of the country. Jana Ulmer took pictures for the > wiki. Year number two they didn't come up. Year number three one came up > and the first bloom opened yesterday. > > Mary Sue > > Mary Sue Ittner > California's North Coast > Wet mild winters with occasional frost > Dry mild summers > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 32, Issue 20 > *********************************** >
