I had avoided the Iris wiki pages for a long time since I knew they would present a huge challenge. But when we started adding John Lonsdale's pictures I was forced to come up with some way of dividing the pages. I asked for help in doing this since I admit I am not an expert on Iris and used some of the few suggestions I got to name the pages. In the past we have had requests not to make our wiki pages more complicated beyond the genus level as we wanted our information to be available to a wide range of users so we have not named our wiki subgenus pages by the subgenus name except perhaps in the case of Moraea when a lot of people were familiar with Homeria, Galaxia, and some of the other former genera that were combined into Moraea. It's one reason I insisted our wiki not be divided by families as most people would not be able to find the information they needed searching that way. So I was at a loss about how to name the wiki iris pages. So this is what I came up with: Bulbous irises with wiki pages named <http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…>Juno Irises, <http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…>Reticulata Irises, and <http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…>Spanish Irises. Irises with rhizomes with wiki pages named <http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…>Aril Irises, <http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…>Garden Bearded Irises, <http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…>Beardless Irises, <http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…>Crested Irises, and <http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…>Pacific Coast Irises. My choices could not be perfect and I hoped that by explaining on the top of each page and including the botanical subgenus name if I could find what they were, people could live with my choices. I'm not sure when I started on this project, maybe March. I worked on it for months and months, making one subpage at a time as we removed the information for the species for each group as we transferred them and added new pictures and species from John. Now I wish I had just left them all alphabetical and just divided the pages as Iris One, Iris Two, Iris Three, etc. I'll keep that in mind if and when we tackle any other large genera. If the name Spanish Iris is going to agitate people, it can be changed, but I do not have time at the moment to do it. And no doubt some people won't be happy with using Xiphium as it will only have meaning to those people who are well versed with Iris. I spent some time today hoping to make it better, but that's all the time I have to devote to this. If Rodger is willing to help that would be great. If not I suggest Jim McKenney does it since he is the one who first complained about the choice of words. People can make changes to other people's work on a wiki. All I ask is if the name of the page is changed all of the iris wiki pages are changed at the same time to reflect this so the links will work as I do not have time to do it. And I ask you to name the page something that is consistent with the other wiki Iris pages and name it in a wiki page way by writing the words together instead of using brackets. Mary Sue