Hi Gang, I will cross-post this message on the Pacific Bulb Society and the Int. Bulb Society. Cynthia M. and I drove to Vidor, TX today to visit with Marcelle Sheppard and Margie and Lanny B. Margie and Lanny B. have imported interesting bulbs from Asia over the years and grow many of Marcelle's Crinum hybrids. Along the way, near Sour Lake, TX (near the home of Dr. Dave Crinum Guy), we stopped to dig some Zephyranthes chlorosolen. This plant has a list of confusing names, so I always refer to it as the "plant with the long floral tube and the thin green leaves." It seems to be terminally confused with the very different Drummond rain lily. LINK: Z. chlorosolen (Flora of North America Online) http://efloras.org/object_page.aspx/… LINK: Z. drummondii (sometimes C. drummondii, etc.) http://efloras.org/florataxon.aspx/… Anyway, we visited with Marcelle and had a very nice time, heat and humidity be darned. Marcelle continues to attend her Crinum even though she must use a walker can't do digging the past year. She has many hybrids coming along from the Burgundy series, the Jumbo series, the Champange series, and more. Later, Cynthia and I visited with Margie and Lanny, nearby residents of Vidor, TX. Margie's garden, as usual, was in perfect condition and full of flower and attractive foliage. I like the dayliles a lot, but the very special display are the 20-30 different red-leaved Crinum types that Margie grows--impressive and tropical. Margie sent me home with several Canna hybrids for my front yard (now that I have discovered imidacloprid insecticide), and she also gave me various Amaryllis types (Hippeastrum hybrids) for general use along the Zone 8b and warmer Texas Gulf Coast. As is her custom with visitors, Margie even found a plant that Cynthia M. did not have (a wonderfully vigorous and fragrant Amarcrinum (I think from Les Hannibal) and she sent that home with Cynthia. Margie and Marcelle both gave me Crinum plants, seeds, and seedlings from my favorite Crinums (e.g., 'Bride's Bouquet' and Crinum Jumbo "best dark red-pink," etc.). I think that I will surely run out of growing space as all of the bounty matures. Cordially, Joe Conroe, TX