Before Christmas a friend in Eastern Europe asked me to buy some back issues of Herbertia for him. I went to the IBS website and identified the online 'store' and selected the volumes I wanted. I was kicked into the e-commerce section of the web site which was flagged because its security certificate had expired. The site may not have been compromised but I wasn't willing to take the risk. I then found a form to download to order the publications and thought my luck was in because it listed our near and dear Arnold T as the man to contact. Unfortunately Arnold departed that position several years ago but it seems no-one bothered to update the form! I was given two emails to try, one of Alan Meerow, the editor of Herbertia, the other being publications@ibs.org. In nearly a week, notes to both of these have gone unanswered. Does anyone have a better idea as to how I might get these back issues of Herbertia please? Thanks, John John T Lonsdale PhD 407 Edgewood Drive, Exton, Pennsylvania 19341, USA Home: 610 594 9232 Cell: 484 678 9856 Fax: 801 327 1266 Visit "Edgewood" - The Lonsdale Garden at <http://www.edgewoodgardens.net/> http://www.edgewoodgardens.net/ USDA Zone 6b