Peony Misc,

Dell Sherk dells@voicenet.com
Sat, 03 Mar 2007 11:53:05 PST
Dear Jim,

I know it is too cold in Missouri for chameleons to survive the winter. I
think that they are generally difficult to keep in captivity. Have you been
employing genetic engineering again? You'll go to Hell for that, you know!

Dell 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 12:08 PM
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Subject: [pbs] Peony Misc,
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Dear Jim et al;
	Just back from a few days soaking up some (horti)culture.


	I thought I'd throw out some 2 cent(es) on recent topics.

	There are 2 different Chameleons here.

1)
	P. x chamaeleon Troitsky 1930. his is described briefly in 
"The Genus Paeonia" by Halda and Waddick. It is natural hybrid 
between P. daurica  x P. mlokoswetschii. P. daurica is the accepted 
name even though it was based on a misspelling of the name 'taurica'. 
That's the nomenclatural 'breaks'.

	Depending on your understanding of peony systematics (or not) 
there is considerable confusion over the entire 'Mloko group' and if 
you consider some species as synonymous and highly variable, or 
strictly defined and restricted, this hybrid is either a valid name 
or simply part of the single species. One questions is P. 
mlokosewitschii ALWAYS Yellow flowering?


2)
	P 'Chameleon' (note spelling) introduced by Klehm 2001. This 
is an early blooming single rose/lavender/ pink dwarf (15 in). 
Although no parentage is given it looks like it may involve P. anomala.

	Please note chamaeleon - lower case 'c' and an internal 'ae' 
versus the cultivar within single quotes and an upper case 'C".

	I do not hesitate to suggest to all the excellent site by my 
friend Dr. Carsten Burkhardt which includes this section 
http://paeo.de/name/index.html

	The main site address is http://paeo.de/

	I suggest study of this site for any peony name.


Next Epigeal versus hypogeal germination of peonies.

	 I discussed this in some detail in the above mentioned book, 
but there seems to no real rhyme or reason. Only three "species" of 
peony seem to produce cotyledons in their normal germination cycle. I 
use the quoites since the three are P. brownii (if you consider this 
a sp or subsp from the very close P. californica), P. tenuifolia and 
P. rockii (again is you consider this an independent species or a 
subspecies of P. suffrutiocsa).
	Since the genus is divided into 3 subgenera, it seems 
appropriate that the three species discussed here each belong to a 
separate subgenus; adding to the speculation.

	I leave the speculation to our other list members.

	Hope this helps a bit.		Best	Jim W.
-- 
Dr. James W. Waddick
8871 NW Brostrom Rd.
Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711
USA
Ph.    816-746-1949
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