FROSTS

Robt R Pries rpries@sbcglobal.net
Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:46:28 PST
Wow! i FOUND THE URL, unfortunately It seems to verify
what i have been noting although I can see how someone
might interprt it otherwise because of the
variability. I really don't want to debate global
warming. Ithe phenomenon is pretty well accepted.
People still debate whether it is within the range of
natural conditions or whether man has had an effect. I
started out as an ecologist 30 years ago and I thought
we had resolved that then and I think it is a matter
of common sense and basic science. But many people
still seem divided. It really doesn't matter. The
indisputable fact is that the climate is warming
whether a natural cycle or not and it appears that we
could controll it if we wish by certain interventions.
In my mind these interventions could be extradinarily
profitable for our standard of living but that is a
political decision and has no place here. But the
basic science on how water can protect a plant is
useful and that is the most important issue for our
forum. It not my place to be reccommending how to make
us all wealthier. I don't expect to live more than
twenty more years and even if the wrong decisions are
made I will be at the end of my life as the most
severe consequences are felt. It is not my problem.

--- Tim Harvey <zigur@hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Just add a 'g' to the url so it ends .jpg
>  
>  T> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:19:50 -0800> From:
> rpries@sbcglobal.net> To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] FROSTS> > I really wosh you
> source was correct but it appears to> have
> disappeared along with much of the ice shelf.> > ---
> Mark Mazer <markmazerandfm13@earthlink.net> wrote:>
> > > Miss the point.> > > > The metrics presented by
> idealogs and media never> > include statistics from
> the 90% South.> > > > Ice coverage info was not
> available via satellite> > until 1978-9> > > > The
> current Antarctic ice mass is above the annual> >
> mean recorded since 1978-9. > > > >>
>
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/…>
> > > > You are correct that it has retreated from the
> very> > RECENT RECORD HIGH coverage.> > > > > >
> “If you keep saying things are going to be bad,> >
> you have a good chance of being a prophet.â€￾ I.B.>
> > Singer> > > > Mark Mazer> > Hertford, NC> > Where
> even if there was no such thing as global> > warming
> it would be hot and humid.> > > > -----Original
> Message-----> > >From: Robt R Pries
> <rpries@sbcglobal.net>> > >Sent: Nov 13, 2007 4:46
> PM> > >To: Pacific Bulb Society
> <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>> > >Subject: Re: [pbs]
> FROSTS> > >> > >If the South Pole has record cold
> why is the ice> > shelf> > >there retreating many
> miles back towards the pole.> > >Amazing> > >> >
> >--- Mark Mazer <markmazerandfm13@earthlink.net>> >
> wrote:> > >> > >> . Just imagine the tremendous> >
> >> >number of calories that are being absorbed> > >>
> presently> > >> >by the melting ice caps at the
> North Pole. Once> > >> that> > >> >ice is gone
> imagine how hot it could get without> > >>
> >something out there to absorb the excess. > > >> >
> > >> Like the present day South pole. Record warm> >
> North,> > >> record cold South. Hmm!!!> > >> Mark
> Mazer> > >> Hertford, NC> > >>
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