Hi, I've looked up in my copy of The Smaller Bulbs by Brian Mathew and here are the descriptions I find: C. luciliae (C. gigantea) "usually only one or two large upright flowers about 3-4 cm. in diameter, in a soft lavender-blue with a small white centre....There is a white form in cultivation. " He goes on to say that 'C. luciliae of gardens' that is offered in catalogs and the commonest species in cultivation will have to take the name C. siehei or C. forbesii. He describes the former as the vigorous version of the plant that has been wrongly grown as C. luciliae. Apparently at the time he wrote the book someone else thought C. forbesii was the same species, but at that point he wasn't convinced. The book was written in 1987 so But C. siehei is described as having 12 flowers in a one-sided raceme, each about 2 to 2.5 cm in diameter and a strong blue with a large white eye. (more purple if compared to C. sardensis). C. is described as having the richest blue with four and twelve slightly pendent flowers abut 2 to 2.5 cm. in diameter with almost no white eye in the centre, apart from the filaments. So probably Arnold's picture he added to the wiki is not correct, but I need some of you who are more expert than I am to help me figure out what to change it to. I thought it looked like Kelly's picture of C. sardensis which was what Jerry suggested it might be even though he didn't. Anybody grow these and have pictures of some of the species to add to the wiki? Confusing all of this is that Speta thought this genus should be moved to Scilla even though he moved most of Scilla into new genera. So Kew has these species: Scilla luciliae , Scilla sardensis , <http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do/…>Scilla forbesii<http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do/…> . It lists Scilla siehei as a synonym of Scilla forbesii. I'd love some guidance about how we should handle this on the wiki and what to rename Arnold's picture. Is there any consensus from any of you who know more about these genera than I do? Thanks in advance for your help on this. Mary Sue