On 28 Aug 08, at 19:58, Jim McKenney wrote: > As I recall the web site showed mass plantings of these hybrids: my guess is > that they are already making the rounds, especially if they do not meet the > hybridist’s goals. Actually, good plant breeders ruthlessly destroy sub-par seedlings. Whether these particular hybridists qualify as "good" I cannot say. -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Maritime Zone 8, a cool Mediterranean climate on beautiful Vancouver Island http://maps.google.ca/maps/…