On 17 Jul 08, at 18:01, Ellen Hornig wrote: > So Roger (Whitlock)...what's so awful about T. recurvatum? I have some from > midwestern collections that are gorgeous - bright silver mottling, pert upright > demeanor, and handsome dark maroon flowers. I suspect your observation was made > on a southern specimen - the southern ones I've seen are not very attractive. > But Illinois produces some beauties, and they're great garden plants: easy, > clump up quickly, long season of interest. Horrible little flowers in that dreadful dark puce some trilliums affect because they think it's stylish. Leaves unremarkable, though once the plants are established, perhaps they'll do better. But I was expecting T. undulatum, an altogether more fetching species. I'm keeping the imposter with the hope of putting it in our local rock garden club's show some spring and astonishing the local trillium fanciers. PS: I nearly typed "hobbirle" or perhaps I was heading for hobbitable. I leave it to the psychiatrists and -ologists to determine the inner meaning of this near mistake. Remember, as Freud said, there are no accidents. -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Maritime Zone 8, a cool Mediterranean climate on beautiful Vancouver Island