Hi Roger, I grow a number of Tropaeolum, but introducing Tropaeolum ciliatum to my garden was one of the worst things that I ever did. It is a fast spreading menace that is almost impossible to eradicate. If anyone lives in a similar climate to the UK, make sure you only grow it in a pot on a concrete base or face the consequences! best wishes, David Victor PS for those of you that know (of) me, I've recently become the UK National Collection Holder of Pelargonium Section Hoarea.