Uli Urban wrote about Tropaeolum pentaphyllum: >I have never tested with my plants but I > think it is not very hardy and is not suitable for outdoor cultivation > in winter cold climates below freezing. This has always been my view as well, but earlier in the summer I was visiting a garden in the Cotswolds and saw the familiar flowers of T. pentahyllum twining round something else. I expressed my surprise and was told it was hardy there! The garden in question is even higher than we are here, so I shall put my plant out for 'hardiness testing' next spring. It certainly doesn't deserve precious greenhouse space... John Grimshaw Dr. John M. Grimshaw Sycamore Cottage Colesbourne Cheltenham Gloucestershire GL53 9NP