Bananas in New jersey / I Don't Trust Zone Maps

Christine Council
Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:16:42 PST
Hey there,
Are you bragging or complaining?  That is a Philly term.
I love cold weather, especially if I am inside by the fire
and perhaps with a cup of spiced tea or something..

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Adam Fikso
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 12:04 AM
To: Pacific Bulb Society
Subject: Re: [pbs] Bananas in New jersey / I Don't Trust Zone Maps

Both your present and former residences are warmer than Chicago.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judy Glattstein" <>
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Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:17 PM
Subject: [pbs] Bananas in New jersey / I Don't Trust Zone Maps

> Adam Fikso wrote: "Judging from the USDA zone map, you seem to be Zone 
> 6b."
> I don't believe the USDA zone maps. They rely on winter low temperature
> and disregard everything else, even duration of cold. By their
> estimation, a location that dips down to 25 degrees Fahrenheit and stays
> below freezing for a week or longer is in the same zone as a place that
> reaches that low temperature but rises above freezing in the daytime.
> What nonsense.
> Going back better than a decade - my garden in Wilton, Connecticut had
> that gardener's holy grail of high organic soil, moist but well drained.
> I grew Amaryllis belladona outdoors, year round, (under roof overhang, I
> admit) and it flowered reliably. Cyclamen coum reseeded prolifically.
> My New Jersey garden is south of that, but it has a clay-based soil and
> is on the shady side of the street. There are plants that don't like it
> here, that would have thrived in Connecticut.
> Would that Sunset magazine would develop their incredible zone system
> for the American West to cover country-wide. (I did once write and ask
> if they'd consider publishing Sunrise, the magazine of Eastern living.
> Never got an answer.)
> Judy in New Jersey where the ferocious winds have been howling all day,
> shaking the trees and littering the place with downed branches
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