It doesn't take but a few minutes searching the PBS archives to find messages that, implicitly or explicitly, implicate both esteemed and amateur members who illegally import seed or other plant material into the US. Yet the recent discussions only focus on the shortcomings of the current APHIS/USDA regulatory system. What a bunch of hypocrites we are. It doesn't take much knowledge of worldwide seed suppliers to know, that from a well known nursery in Wales that proudly states they (fraudulently) label packages of seed as dried botanical material, to a well known supplier of caudiform and geophytic material in South Africa that illegally ships seed, to an Andean supplier that mislabeles rare material and subsequently supplies a key to ID said material; nor European, Russian, and I suppose many others, unknown to this writer, that are complicit in this type of behavior. It doesn't take but a few moments searching Ebay to find many more suppliers to feed this deception. What a bunch of scoundrels they are. "We have met the enemy.....and he is us" Pogo Mark Mazer Hertford, North Carolina USA