This discussion reminds me that I have plants of an incredibly tiny roscoea, from seed collected in China by Jurasek, I believe (i'm away from the nursery this week and can't check). I think it came labeled as R. tibetica, but it's much smaller - from memory, the plants are maybe 5cm tall, nd the flowers mabe 1.5-2cm across, with petals flared out sideways. Most are pure white; a few are red-purple. Does this ring a bell with anyone? It's on my to-do list to try to key it out, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Ellen Seneca Hill Perennials 3712 Co. Rt. 57 Oswego NY 13126 Phone: 315-342-5915 Fax: 315-342-5573 http://www.senecahillperennials.com/