Stenomesson/Clinanthus

Adam Fikso adam14113@ameritech.net
Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:04:28 PDT
Has anyone tried to hybridize  Allium with Agapanthus?


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From: "J.E. Shields" <jshields@indy.net>
To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [pbs] Stenomesson/Clinanthus


> Hi Mary Sue,
>
> Although an outsider to the world of the systematists (if that is the
> correct term -- a question of the taxonomy of taxonomists) I still have
> very firm opinions on new nomenclature.
>
> I think we should go with Alan Meerow's proposals.  No one knows more 
> about
> the New World Amaryllidaceae (now considered a small piece of Alliaceae)
> than Alan.  Moreover, much of his work is based on DNA sequencing studies,
> which I consider the most reliable basis for taxonomic
> classifications.  (I'm a biochemist, so of course I would not be biased in
> favor of DNA!)
>
> I do favor retaining the name Amaryllidaceae, for the sake of convenience
> at least.  I still have trouble remembering that the amaryllids are now
> lumped into the Alliaceae.
>
> Jim Shields
> Westfield, Indiana
> USA
>
>
> At 10:08 AM 7/8/2009 -0500, you wrote:
>>Hi Mary Sue:
>>
>>You have my sympathy. At Chicago Botanic Garden we constantly struggle
>>in an effort to keep our taxonomy and nomenclature up to date. It is
>>particularly frustrating when two of the foremost scientific references
>>do not agree.  Sometimes we have found it is simply the fact they have
>>not had time to update their websites but at other times they
>>strenuously disagree for scientific reasons.
>>
>>Many thanks for not giving up in your quest for answers! We use the wiki
>>as a resource for our staff when they are exploring new and different
>>taxa to kept our displays interesting and new.
>>
>>Boyce Tankersley
>>Director of Living Plant Documentation
>>Chicago Botanic Garden
>>1000 Lake Cook Road
>>Glencoe, IL 60022
>>tel: 847-835-6841
>>fax: 847-835-1635
>>email: btankers@chicagobotanic.org
>>
>>
>>I see that Kew is listing the accepted name as Clinanthus for all of the
>>
>>species on our wiki Stenomesson page except for Stenomesson pearcei
>>which
>>is listed under Stenomesson. On the other hand the data base maintained
>>by
>>the Misssouri Botanical Gardens still lists them as Stenomesson. We have
>>so
>>many Amaryllidaceae fans in this group. Can you give me guidance about
>>which wiki page these plants should be displayed on and what most people
>>
>>have decided to call them.
>>
>>Hoping for a response.
>>
>>Mary Sue
>>
>>
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