That's what I was thinking of, Arnold. Jim McKenney -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Arnold Trachtenberg Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 3:12 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] planting in pipes I need a visual on the "drain tiles'. We have underground clay pipes four to six inches in diameter used for draining water from down spouts connected to roof gutters. I think they are called Organgeburg pipes. Is this the drain tiles we are referring to? Arnold