Family classification

gentiaan bulborum bulborum@gmail.com
Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:04:53 PDT
Jacob

I have the same problem
for my profession (I am a bulb salesman) it is confusing
for my (semi hobby)collections I need the correct information
I have a lot of discussions with my clients but I think the main
solutions is the garden magazins and television programs.
They should both use the old and new names
so people will learn

Roland



2010/4/28 Jacob Knecht <jacobknecht@gmail.com>:
> Roland,
>
> As a horticulturist, scientist and someone who has a fair deal of experience
> with the nursery and landscaping trade, I feel that I understand both sides
> of this.  Whether we like it or not, botanical science serves a greater
> focus than that of horticulturists alone.  We can chose to ignore it or
> benefit from it.  Good science does not discriminate based on anthropogenic
> thought and it is always in flux.  By definition the journey of discovery
> will always result in a changed understanding of that which is being
> studied.  I doubt any taxonomist actually takes pleasure in the confusion
> often felt in the marketplace of plants after name changes.
>
> Jacob
>
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>
> On 28 April 2010 13:39, gentiaan bulborum <bulborum@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes Nhu
>>
>> partly you are right
>> but if you sell Hippeastrum you are getting mad I also sell Amaryllis
>> belladonna
>> After every day telling dozens of customers if they mean Hippeastrum
>> or Amaryllis and in the mean time you are wasting time your college is
>> selling
>> The same you can say from Pelargonium versus Geranium
>> Dendranthema versus Chrysanthemum and so on and so on
>> Here is a job for all those garden magazines all around the world
>> who constant are using popular and old names
>> Of course I am happy with correct Latin names but sometimes
>> I think why change a name if anybody knows it under a other name
>> what means THE FIRST BOTANIST WAS WRONG Take some more time to do
>> the job good or don't change it
>> The same for all those botanic gardens sending wrong labelled seeds
>> all around the world
>> for example for a botanic garden in Holland I got over 500 packets of
>> Allium sp.
>> over 9 out of 10 from all beautiful names where Allium cyathophorum var.
>> farreri
>> if you are not sure of a name don't collect it or send it under a
>> collection number
>> I grow over 1000 species and are desperate looking for reviews
>> of bulbous plants very difficult to find
>>
>> Roland
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/4/28 Nhu Nguyen <xerantheum@gmail.com>:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I share Jane's annoyance with gardeners who have knee-jerking reactions
>> to
>> > name changes. These changes are made to reflect the latest evidence we
>> have
>> > regarding the evolutionary biology of organisms. Being able to sequence
>> the
>> > genetic material of all living organisms provided us with a powerful new
>> way
>> > to classify them. It is a revolution in science, and with any revolution
>> > there are major disruptions that cannot be avoided. Furthermore, these
>> > changes are made solely on scientific merits and should not be influenced
>> by
>> > economics. With that said, there is a little bit of wiggle room for how
>> > those changes are made and it is up to the researcher to decide what
>> > directions to take. New names are intrinsically linked to old names so
>> > technically one can look it up in a database somewhere and still be
>> talking
>> > about the same organism despite usage of different names.
>> >
>> > >From the seller's point of view, it is understandable to use a name that
>> is
>> > best selling. However, it does not take up that much more room to at
>> least
>> > include the latest synonym in a catalog. This way it is inclusive to
>> > everyone who is interested in that plant. I have on several occasions
>> bought
>> > plants that was labeled with an older name and only to find out that I
>> > already have that plant at home under a newer name.
>> >
>> > Nhu
>> > Berkeley, CA
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>> >
>> > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:00 AM, gentiaan bulborum <bulborum@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> let them think first 10 times before they change a name
>> >> Smilacina with a lot of species in Maianthemum with just a few species
>> >> Just because his name is mentioned many times
>> >> I know the rules but sometimes ????
>> >>
>> >> Roland
>> >>
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