Jude, I have some references on African Crinum at the bottom of this page on my web site: http://shieldsgardens.com/amaryllids/… For expert opinions on Crinum, you can consult Dave Lehmiller and Alan Meerow. I'm not an expert. Regards, Jim S. At 09:35 AM 12/9/2010 -0500, you wrote: >They, too, are from South Africa. You can google it. >Thanks, Jude > ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. ++1-317-867-3344