Hello all--Impressive information, Jim, and very welcome to me in my Glenview 5a area. because it means that I can try some of what you're doing only about half a zone away--and hope for similar results --even without the cold frame. Up to freezing today--snow melting and sliding off the roof--watering the tender (African) stuff that stays planted at just inside the drip line of the eaves. (mostly dry and helps some of the Africans come through the winter. , e.g, Eucomis, and Crinum E. Bosanquet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim McKenney" <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <email@example.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 12:14 PM Subject: [pbs] Digging for gold under the snow... I worked up the courage to uncover the most protected cold frames today. It was hard to get to them: when the neighbors cleared the snow from their driveway, they heaped it onto our lot. The cold frame area is surrounded by a three foot deep dyke of snow.