Indeed some forms of Sternbergia lutea e.g those of Paxos are triploid The lutea I have from the peloponesus and from Turkey are diploid By the way can anyone help me with live material from S minoica and S vernalis ( a leaf will do) I can do then a write up. Ben Ben J.M.Zonneveld Nationaal Herbarium Nederland POBox 9514 2300 RA Leiden, The Netherlands telf 071 5274738 E-mail: Zonneveld@NHN.Leidenuniv.nl