Dear David, I have a Ecuadorean PhD. student, Nora Oleas, who is working on Phaedranssa in my lab. We have sought material of P. lehmannii from which to extract DNA, to no avail, as Colombia has become very difficult to obtain permission for collections. In the 1990's I was sent a specimen, unfortunately without flowers, supposedly of this species, collected a few years previously from near the type locality by Jorge Ramos, at that time curator of the herbarium of the Universidad del Valle in Cali. We tried extracting DNA from this specimen as well, unsuccessfully. I searched around in type locality for this plant in 1984 and turned up nothing, though I did find P. ventricosa Baker near Purace. Currently, several Colombian colleagues are keeping their eyes open when they are in the vicinity of the original collections. I've seen the type specimen, as well as collection made by Mulford Foster in the 1940's, and we have no reason to believe that it represents anything other than a species of Phaedranassa. No material of that genus has ever been collected in Peru (though a synonym of Rauhia multiflora is Phaedranaas megistophylla). Alan Meerow