I have just noticed the discussion on minimum temperatures for Nerine and am surprised at the high temperatures quoted. Here in Bacchus Marsh Victoria Australia I have been growing a few Nerines for many years say around at least 25 years. I grow the bulbs outside where winter temperatures fall to -5ºC and certainly /N. flexuosa/ and /N./ 'Fothergillii Major' flower reliably. They grow in the same conditions as my Lachenalia collection. If temperatures affect their flowering it certainly is not the winter temperature. We do have hot summers and perhaps the bulbs require to be very warm over the summer period to 'ripen'. I fear that simply quoting maximum and minimum temperatures does not completely describe the requirements of these bulbs. Is it possible that average temperatures or day length might affect flower initiation. I must add that our low temperatures do not occur for long periods and probably last for no more than a few hours. Certainly these temperatures do not extend into the day time and probably occur mainly at dawn but sometimes frost do occur at night fall. Day time temperatures will usually climb to 5ºC or 10ºC and ice will soon melt. I certainly do not use a greenhouse or any other form of covering. I hope that this adds to the discussion and if anyone wants more information please ask. Kind regards Don Journet Bacchus Marsh Victoria Australia Diane Whitehead wrote: > > I also read the information about sarniensis, and was startled by this: > > Studies from the Netherland reports that it takes 3 years for a > developing bud to mature and that temperatures below 17C causes buds > to abort (which means it will take another 3 years to flower again if > it got too cold one winter and all the developing buds abort). Optimal > flowering temperature is 17-21C > > I frequently experience temperatures below 17 C in the summer, never > mind the winter. It is noon now, on a sunny day, and the temperature > is 19 C, but at 7 a.m. it was 10.