rare/specialty forms of galanthus

ds429@comcast.net ds429@comcast.net
Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:03:27 PDT

Peter, 



This is a wonderful idea! I know that we have members who have interesting cultivars of galanthus and several members who know how to do twin-scaling. Does anyone know about obstacles (legal or otherwise) to an effort to propagate and distribute galanthus through twin-scaling? Are they especially difficult to twin-scale? Please, other members, add your thoughts to this discussion. 



Best wishes, 

Dell 



Dell Sherk, PBS BX 



----- Original Message -----


From: "Peter Taggart" <petersirises@gmail.com> 
To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> 
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 6:16:06 PM 
Subject: Re: [pbs] rare/specialty forms of galanthus 

all it needs is a couple of bulbs of a form or cultivar to be twin scaled 
and most snowdrops could be widely distributed in the US in a few years. 
Surely there are a few legal bulbs of many varieties already in the US?  If 
there owners were to give one over to twin scaling ---problem solved. 
Peter 

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 3:28 PM, KEVIN INKAWHICH <kevin_ink@mac.com> wrote: 

> Thanks everyone for your help and advice.  I can see that this will be 
> quite a challenge! But isn't every worthwhile effort a challenge? 
> I wrote to Mr Lyman yesterday. 
> Keep all your good advice coming, John were would I get the necessary 
> papers to place an order with the UK from you? 
> Sounds like it's worth a shot. 
> Kevin 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> On Jun 19, 2011, at 7:13 AM, John Grimshaw <j.grimshaw@virgin.net> wrote: 
> 
> > As Jane McGary says, the biggest problem in getting Galanthus into North 
> > America is the paperwork and bureaucracy required. We (Colesbourne 
> Gardens 
> > http://www.snowdrop.org.uk/) are one of the few UK suppliers to export snowdrops 
> (as 
> > dormant bulbs, the only time we move them) to North America and it is a 
> > matter for major stress. The paperwork for each consignment is massive, 
> but 
> > the worst part is not knowing whether the parcels will be inspected by 
> > British customs on the way out, and the CITES licences stamped properly: 
> we 
> > have had great problems because this has not happened in the past. 
> > 
> > It's not surprising that some people choose the easy route and smuggle 
> them 
> > in, but CITES has teeth in international law (think ivory, rhino horn, 
> > orchids) and there are potential phytosanitary consequences of unchecked 
> > material, so we do it the hard way. 
> > 
> > John Grimshaw 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Visit John Grimshaw's Garden Diary 
> > http://johngrimshawsgardendiary.blogspot.com/ 
> > 
> > Dr. John M. Grimshaw 
> > Sycamore Cottage 
> > Colesbourne 
> > Cheltenham 
> > Gloucestershire 
> > GL53 9NP 
> > 
> > Tel. 01242 870567 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jane McGary" <janemcgary@earthlink.net> 
> > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> 
> > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:32 PM 
> > Subject: Re: [pbs] rare/specialty forms of galanthus 
> > 
> > 
> >> Kevin wrote 
> >>> Dear Fellow Bulb Fanatics- 
> >>> 
> >>> GALANTHUS 
> >>> 
> >>> Subject line says it. 
> >>> Seems they are difficult to locate in the states.  Any suggestions 
> >>> or better to offer?  Would like to get some soon. 
> >>> 
> > w 
> >> are convinced that this is a myth that began when we didn't have the 
> >> ability to store the dormant bulbs properly and ship them quickly. 
> >> When I was selling bulbs I always sent my Galanthus bulbs dormant in 
> >> late summer, packed in barely moist vermiculite, and I've received 
> >> healthy bulbs from the UK and Latvia at this stage also. It also 
> >> means much less expense! We may hear from Galanthus expert John 
> >> Grimshaw soon on this topic. 
> >> 
> >> Though I'm no galanthophile (snowdrop fanatic), we do have a few here 
> >> in the Pacific Northwest and it's likely that we'll slowly build up a 
> >> community stock of select varieties that will eventually be 
> >> disseminated. One problem is that the genus Galanthus is CITES 
> >> controlled (because of harvesting in the wild in Turkey) and 
> >> therefore very expensive to import: each listed genus in an order 
> >> requries a separate, costly CITES permit, even if the material being 
> >> shipped is a named variety that's been propagated in gardens for a 
> >> century. 
> >> 
> >> Jane McGary 
> >> Portland, Oregon, USA 
> >> 
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