rare/specialty forms of galanthus

Peter Taggart petersirises@gmail.com
Fri, 24 Jun 2011 15:38:05 PDT
Hello Dell,
In the UK twin scaling is a standard procedure for bulk and commercial
propagation of many bulbs, in particular snowdrop and daffodill cultivars.
There are related tecniques such as scoring a cross on the basal plate of a
bulb and planting it upside down especially used for hyacinths or so I
believe, and horizontally halfing the bulbs of the Fritillaria persica. I
have never done more than an occasional experiment with these tecniques
myself -out of curiosity, but I believe problems can arise with twin scaling
if the fragments of the bulb are too small resulting in insufficient
material to produce healthy bulbils.
The only legal problems I can think of are plant breeders rights where
propagation of a particular cultivar is prohibited for a period of time.
Peter

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:03 PM, <ds429@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> Peter,
>
>
>
> This is a wonderful idea! I know that we have members who have interesting
> cultivars of galanthus and several members who know how to do twin-scaling.
> Does anyone know about obstacles (legal or otherwise) to an effort to
> propagate and distribute galanthus through twin-scaling? Are they especially
> difficult to twin-scale? Please, other members, add your thoughts to this
> discussion.
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Dell
>
>
>
> Dell Sherk, PBS BX
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: "Peter Taggart" <petersirises@gmail.com>
> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 6:16:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [pbs] rare/specialty forms of galanthus
>
> all it needs is a couple of bulbs of a form or cultivar to be twin scaled
> and most snowdrops could be widely distributed in the US in a few years.
> Surely there are a few legal bulbs of many varieties already in the US?  If
> there owners were to give one over to twin scaling ---problem solved.
> Peter
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 3:28 PM, KEVIN INKAWHICH <kevin_ink@mac.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks everyone for your help and advice.  I can see that this will be
> > quite a challenge! But isn't every worthwhile effort a challenge?
> > I wrote to Mr Lyman yesterday.
> > Keep all your good advice coming, John were would I get the necessary
> > papers to place an order with the UK from you?
> > Sounds like it's worth a shot.
> > Kevin
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Jun 19, 2011, at 7:13 AM, John Grimshaw <j.grimshaw@virgin.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > As Jane McGary says, the biggest problem in getting Galanthus into
> North
> > > America is the paperwork and bureaucracy required. We (Colesbourne
> > Gardens
> > > http://www.snowdrop.org.uk/) are one of the few UK suppliers to export
> snowdrops
> > (as
> > > dormant bulbs, the only time we move them) to North America and it is a
> > > matter for major stress. The paperwork for each consignment is massive,
> > but
> > > the worst part is not knowing whether the parcels will be inspected by
> > > British customs on the way out, and the CITES licences stamped
> properly:
> > we
> > > have had great problems because this has not happened in the past.
> > >
> > > It's not surprising that some people choose the easy route and smuggle
> > them
> > > in, but CITES has teeth in international law (think ivory, rhino horn,
> > > orchids) and there are potential phytosanitary consequences of
> unchecked
> > > material, so we do it the hard way.
> > >
> > > John Grimshaw
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Visit John Grimshaw's Garden Diary
> > > http://johngrimshawsgardendiary.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > > Dr. John M. Grimshaw
> > > Sycamore Cottage
> > > Colesbourne
> > > Cheltenham
> > > Gloucestershire
> > > GL53 9NP
> > >
> > > Tel. 01242 870567
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jane McGary" <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
> > > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:32 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [pbs] rare/specialty forms of galanthus
> > >
> > >
> > >> Kevin wrote
> > >>> Dear Fellow Bulb Fanatics-
> > >>>
> > >>> GALANTHUS
> > >>>
> > >>> Subject line says it.
> > >>> Seems they are difficult to locate in the states.  Any suggestions
> > >>> or better to offer?  Would like to get some soon.
> > >>>
> > > w
> > >> are convinced that this is a myth that began when we didn't have the
> > >> ability to store the dormant bulbs properly and ship them quickly.
> > >> When I was selling bulbs I always sent my Galanthus bulbs dormant in
> > >> late summer, packed in barely moist vermiculite, and I've received
> > >> healthy bulbs from the UK and Latvia at this stage also. It also
> > >> means much less expense! We may hear from Galanthus expert John
> > >> Grimshaw soon on this topic.
> > >>
> > >> Though I'm no galanthophile (snowdrop fanatic), we do have a few here
> > >> in the Pacific Northwest and it's likely that we'll slowly build up a
> > >> community stock of select varieties that will eventually be
> > >> disseminated. One problem is that the genus Galanthus is CITES
> > >> controlled (because of harvesting in the wild in Turkey) and
> > >> therefore very expensive to import: each listed genus in an order
> > >> requries a separate, costly CITES permit, even if the material being
> > >> shipped is a named variety that's been propagated in gardens for a
> > >> century.
> > >>
> > >> Jane McGary
> > >> Portland, Oregon, USA
> > >>
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