Robin Carrier robin@no1bird.com
Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:43:47 PDT
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From: "Mark BROWN" <brown.mark@wanadoo.fr>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 7:47 AM
To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] How to kill a CBD

> Magnificent post Tom, thank-you!
> Mark
>> Message du 11/09/11 11:03
>> De : "Tom Mitchell"
>> A : pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
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>> Objet : [pbs] How to kill a CBD
>> I'm sure that most readers of the PBS list want to get back to talking 
>> about bulbs. The enthusiasm for growing plants - as many and as varied as 
>> possible - that shines from every post on this forum is its defining 
>> characteristic. My policy proposal would be to harness that enthusiasm to 
>> the ends of plant conservation by doing exactly what we are doing...but 
>> more of it.
> Several members of the forum have mentioned the UK's system of 'National 
> Collections'. In principle this is a great idea but the Charity that runs 
> the scheme, Plant Heritage is fatally damaged by its self-imposed slavish 
> adherence to treaties such as the CBD and CITES. One national collection 
> holder recently told me that he had collected seed of his favourite genus 
> on a field trip in South America and had raised and was selling plants 
> from this source. He was threatened with expulsion from the scheme because 
> 'we cannot be seen to be condoning _____ breaking the law.'
> Why not establish an informal network of US-based 'International 
> Collections'? The huge advantage to basing such an organisation in the USA 
> is that it is the only large, wealthy country that has not signed the CBD. 
> You can thumb your nose at it without fear of prosecution. Don't limit the 
> number of collections per genus. The more, the better. Don't make the 
> mistake of appointing a committee or allowing one to appoint itself. The 
> committee will immediately become part of the establishment and want to 
> insist on complying with the CBD and you'll be back to square one.
> As for the CBD, my advice is to ignore it. As I said, treat it with the 
> contempt it deserves. We cannot change it from within, so let's destroy it 
> from without.
> With any new law it is wise to ask the Roman Senator Cassius's question - 
> 'cui bono', who benefits? In the case of the CBD the answer is 
> emphatically not biodiversity, for all the reasons previously discussed. 
> In the case of the CBD, no-one benefits because it is toothless and 
> routinely ignored. The would-be beneficiaries, however, are the 
> bureaucrats, who get to attend conferences in fancy hotels to negotiate 
> these things, their political masters, who can claim to their bone-headed 
> electorates to be 'doing something' and the business interests that pull 
> the puppets' strings. It is instructive to quote from an email I received 
> while I was writing this from a friend who has worked all his life as a 
> conservation biologist.
> 'You can imagine that, in 1992 [the 'Earth Summit', where the CBD was 
> born], every nation state arrived at the table with strict instructions 
> from their respective despots back at home to fight, tooth and nail, for 
> their self-interests.  More, they are not to sign off on anything that 
> will damage their development process, as they see it. Translated, this 
> means that they don't want to sign off to anything that will cost money 
> for any industry in which the Big Men, back at home, have vested 
> interests.  They don't want to have an aggressive, fang-bearing lion 
> that'll come and bite them later in the arse.'
> Another friend, a high-ranking conservationist, who works at the front 
> line of bird conservation, wrote even more revealingly in response to an 
> earlier diatribe of mine against the CBD:
> ' I especially love your treatise on the CBD - I share your views but can 
> not express them as I work for an NGO and we have to praise it.'
> 'We have to praise it.' These two guys are passionate conservationists and 
> have taken poorly paid, insecure jobs in an effort to promote biodiversity 
> conservation. Yet they cannot say what they think if they want to keep 
> these jobs. We are on our own, I'm afraid, but collectively we are up to 
> the task.
> Best wishes,
> Tom
>> Some might suggest that an organization like PBS or NARGS or
>> AGS or even AHS and RHS  campaign to resolve the issue of propagation
>> and distribution, but there seem to be complicities within
>> complicities and well meaning do-gooders preventing all the most
>> desirable results.
>> I don't have a clue to even an approach to an answer, but the
>> current situation seems foolish at best.
>> Tom and Boyce can you suggest the first step to resolve this?
>> A step that shows cooperation between both the regulators and
>> authorities, and the growers and gardeners who might implement some
>> changes?
>> BestJim W.
>> * as well as national regulatory agencies, greed and the status quo
>> -- 
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