[PBS] Crinum versus the bulldozers........

jim lykos jimlykos@bigpond.com
Mon, 05 Sep 2011 02:37:51 PDT
Hi Steven,

I enjoyed your enthusiasm and the story of your involvement in the bulb 
rescue - and  I'm also an Australian Crinum enthusiast from NSW. I hope you 
will accept an update on the status of the Australian Crinums you mentioned.
The Crinum species that you called flaccidum in Queensland has been 
reinstated as Crinum brisbanicum. Flaccidum is a NSW species initially found 
in the Liverpool plains and along the Darling river.
Another white Crinum is found in the lower reaches of the Murray River in 
the state of South Australia- that is being named C. murrayanum.
The Crinum with one thin leaf and a single flower is C. uniflorum from Cape 
York and the north coast of  the northern Territory. Crinum luteolum is the 
name that has been reinstated for the yellow Crinum  species from the 
southern part of South Australia.  There is was appears to be a yellow 
subspecies that grows in the SA desert regions extending into southern 
Northern Territory. I,m also aware that a review of Crinums in QLD is likely 
to reinstate another 4 species eg C. pestilensis,
Douglasii, brevistyllum. There are large tracts of  arid  QLD - that I have 
been informed support as yet unidentified Crinum species.


Blue Mountains Aust.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "steven hart" <hartsentwine.australia@gmail.com>
To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [pbs] [PBS] Crinum versus the bulldozers........

> Hi Alberto
> Crinum Venosum is an Australian Native, smaller in stature than many
> crinums, with a thin leaf. One local South East Queensland discovery was
> made about, 100km or so west of me, when it was being investigated as a
> possible Crinum Flacceedum sighting. What a lovely surprise & i bet i'm 
> the
> only person who ever found them in wivenhoe dam, they were in incredibly
> thick scrub areas far from any civilization....& really off the beaten
> track, completely protected by Mount Glorious on one side & cut off by
> grazing properties on the other. I prefer to keep locations secret because
> of intense poaching of seeds & bulbs. But now that i'm older i would speak
> up if i thought populations would ever be disturbed again by 
> development....
> It is very similar to its cousin, with beautiful but simple white fragrant
> flower, not as strong as flacceedum in fragrance. The petals are more
> rigid sharp to the tip like a double edge dagger, unlike Flacceedum which
> has quite a good parabolic curvature to outer edge of the petal & a slight
> back turned more rounded tip. They both flower from the bace & produce
> occasional offsets at random if they have a happy season. The flower is
> quite open star shaped & upright, unlike the yellow Crinum F Luteolum from
> Western Australia, which is slightly more bell shaped. The pollinating 
> parts
> of Venosum flower are less prominent. Seeds are large & random & never in
> profusion. Habitat crosses over for Flac & Veno & they could be easily be
> mistaken to the untrained eye. They have a shorter lass robust leaf than
> Flaceedum & are slower growing too.
> Natural habitat is usually dry creek beds in aluveal sandy loam soils but
> they will tollerate many soils if they have to. Super drought tolerant, 
> but
> can easily stand good rain too. Super hardy & live in areas that can 
> receive
> super hot wet summers & very cold but not so long frosted winters. I dont
> have frost so mine grow almost all year, only becoming dormant for a very
> short couple of weeks or so sometimes.
> I will Wiki list these all soon as i can, hope you enjoyed the info....
> Steven
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Alberto Castillo
> <ezeizabotgard@hotmail.com>wrote:
>> Which species is Crinum venosum?
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