On 7-Sep-11, at 1:56 PM, MARK MAZER AND FREDRIKA MAZER wrote: The Botanical Society of South Africa stopped offering seed from Kirstenbosch to US members years ago. ================================= I'm a bit vague on this - I think giving free seeds for overseas members was stopped, but there is a catalogue of seeds one can buy. I applied for this, but didn't order any because of a caution in it based on the Rio Convention about not being allowed to select or hybridize their seeds. I think there was something about not selling the resulting plants, too. I occasionally select (though my climate usually does this without any effort on my part), hybridize and sell, so I didn't buy any Kirstenbosch seeds. Well, not from their catalogue, anyway. When I visit Kirstenbosch and buy seeds in their shop, there are no restrictions on what I do with the resulting plants. Diane Whitehead Canada