With the globalisation should come an understanding that the same word can mean different things to different people. There is no global language. It is important to become less precious when trying to participate in global conversations. While this is a list based in the USA there are many on it, like myself, who live elsewhere. I don't get hung up on the fact that some participants don't spell the same way we do, heck English is not even spoken by the majority of people in the world. While a word may have an offensive conotation to someone in a place, elsewhere it may have a very tame, even common usage. Life is too good to get upset about minor things, that is why we are passionate about our plants! Greg Ruckert Nairne, South Australia >i thought this was a bulb soceity - and you brought up what it means - a >bugger is a sodomite try more avoidence.